Joshua the Son of Nun
Lecturer: Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley
Date: 1969 / 1970
Transcribed: November 2008, Vanessa Kinley
Proofreaders: Sharon Ross, Carla Davis
Notes:
- [ ] — Transcriber’s notation. Most often indicates when a word or phrase could not be determined.
- RESPONSE: — Verbal replies included if speaker makes a statement in the form of a question or a less general response is given by the audience (i.e., right, all right, uh huh, etc).
[PART A]
DR. KINLEY: …so that if you never see me, you’ll always remember. Now I’m going back in the East leaving at 3:30 pm to visit the State of Ohio. Now I don't plan on running around to all the different schools back there. I don’t plan that at all. Now here’s the reason why: first of all, I don’t feel so good. I’m 74 years old going on 75. And I would like very much for the younger people in this whole entire school to feel that they are a part of it, and they are responsible for the promotion of it, the promotion of this teaching, not only here in Los Angeles, but everywhere.
Now then, you can see my reason for saying that I don't plan to run all over. I don't feel so good. I'm not complaining now, see, I don’t mean it that way, but I did think it was my indispensable duty. Now Mitchell in New York, and Mickey in the State of Michigan, and Dr. Maclin in Chicago, Illinois started a school, and also Billy Carroll in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada; they want to get together a little eastern assembly there and to try to bring the thing down, so it’s better to do it that way, it leaves me trying to travel all around. So they called me, and we communicated and they understand about that. So that’s what I’m planning on doing, going back to the East.
Now let me ask can you hear what I say in the back?
RESPONSE: [Affirmative Responses from Audience]
DR. KINLEY: It’s that fan back there that’s making all that noise, but the people have to have some air, it’s hot in here, very hot, see. So I try my best to speak so that you can hear me. Now I had the scripture lesson read this morning the 24th chapter of Joshua. Now I’m not gonna try to do no whole lot of preaching and teaching, but what I am going to try to do this morning is try to open up your understanding a little bit so that you can understand this whole entire set up so far as the purpose of Yahweh is concerned.
Now every time that someone gets up here to read the scripture please sit down, be quiet and pay attention. Now that’s the only way that you can learn anything. Then not only do you pay attention, now listen at what I’m saying, be obedient of what is said. It doesn’t do any good to get up here and preach your heart and soul and all those type of things out to you and then you don't pay any attention and then you don't obey it. It, it don’t, it doesn't mean a thing.
Now if you have heard that 24th chapter of Joshuā read. Now we told you, and expounded and explained to you who Joshuā was. We’ve been through all of that and it absolutely a matter of impossibility for me or anybody else, for that matter, to get up here and preach, you see, in two hours, you see, or four as for that matter, see, unless you follow the continuity all along so that you know the entire purpose of Yahweh, you understand, all through the dispensations and ages, and so forth and so on. Now it won’t do no good to explain it if you don't pay attention to learn something about it. You get the point?
RESPONSE: Yeah.
DR. KINLEY: Now you have to know so that you’ll know whose right and who’s wrong out there and it will eliminate, see, the doubts and the fears, and all from your mind, then you can see the reality of it. Now let me make it a little bit clearer. Now Joshuā that you read, now we just had it read there, you see, that name is not correct. It should be Yahshua. Now Yahshua, see, was with Moses. Now listen at what I’m gonna say: He was walking around with Moses right in the flesh that was Yahweh our Elohim walking around down on the ground down in Egypt. You understand?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Are you following me now?
RESPONSE: Yes, sir.
DR. KINLEY: Now here comes the question: Somebody say, “Well if that’s so, this that and the other, how could He be born of the Virgin Mary?” You see. You get the point, now ain’t that the birth of Jesus? See. Whose name was not Jesus, but Yahshuā. See. No, let me tell you this, what you do is underestimate the power of Yahweh to do what He wants to do.
Now Satan is no hindrance, no obstruction, but he is an asset to Yahweh, not a liability. Now this is why I’m talking about this: Yahweh just stepped…took on a physical body and walked around on earth among the children of Israel down in Egypt. Well somebody say, “I don’t see how that can be.” Well, I know that. That is what I am trying to tell you now.
If you paid attention to what was read in that book this morning…and just in case you wasn't here in time and you didn’t hear it read, when you go back home from this class sit down and read the 24th chapter of Joshuā. Now Joshuā took on this…Yahweh. Now we got Yahweh, and we got Yahshuā and we got Elohim all stringed up here together. See. And it’s impossible for you to follow it with a carnal mind—can’t see through it. And while I’m on that, I want to get this over to you too, the same Yahweh, the same Elohim, that’s walking around in physical bodies. I told you that He sent me in the world in this last day just before this age here close: to expound and to explain and to make known unto you, so that you can have some hope, so that you will not be discouraged and dismayed.
Now listen again at what I’m gonna say, pay strict attention to it. If you would read the 24th chapter of Matthew, the 21st chapter of Luke and the 13th chapter of Mark, now listen. The world is in a worst shape now then it ever has been in the history of the ages. There never has been a time. And there never will be. Do you understand? There is more deception and Yahweh is giving the devil power to go out and deceive the people. And He’s giving the strength to the true ministers, see, more power then He gives the devil and the fight has got to go on that is all there is to it. There’s nothing happening what isn’t in harmony with His purpose, no problem at all for Him to get the war stopped in Vietnam, no problem at all for Him to get the war stopped over in Israel, that’s no problem at all. That’s going according to the purpose and program. See. Do you understand it?
Now Yahshuā, I am gonna try hard now and you’re gonna set quiet and you’re gonna listen so that I can try to give you a knowledge and lead you straight on through to the things that you should know to keep you from being discouraged and dismayed. Now Joshuā or Elohim or the angel appeared unto Moses at this burning bush that is pictured here on the chart. Now if you’re gonna ever understand your bible, that’s where you gonna have to start with Moses. See. Now somebody say, “Well, naw, don't you start in Genesis 1?” Naw. Then somebody, that don't understand what I am talking about, see, say, “Well, I disagree with him.” How can you help but disagree with me when you don't know what it’s all about?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: See. Now you notice I didn’t start with Abraham, I didn’t start with Isaac, I didn’t start with Jacob, and I didn’t start with Adam, and neither did we start with Enoch, we didn't start with Noah. See. Well, there might be a question: “Well, why not? Why didn’t you start there?” Get the point? Now here is the reason I didn’t start there, because Moses was the first and only man that Yahweh appeared to and outlined or showed or revealed or made known what His entire purpose was and He showed it to him in visions and revealed to him in visions so there wouldn't be no question about it. Now listen if Yahweh showed it to Moses, how could anybody else know anything about it other than him? He didn’t reveal it to nobody else.
RESPONSE: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: Now you see why I start at Moses?
RESPONSE: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: Now look at the 24th chapter of Luke. Now you will have to hurry I got a long ways to go and a short time to make it. Read there in the 24th chapter of Luke, where Luke said that Jesus, that Jesus or Joshuā, or Yahshuā, He began at Moses.
READER: Luke 24:25
DR. KINLEY: Luke 24:25
READER: Then he said unto them…
DR. KINLEY: Then he said unto them…
READER: oh fools…
DR. KINLEY: oh fools…
READER: and slow of hearts…
DR. KINLEY: and slow of hearts to believe…
READER: all that the prophets have spoken…
DR. KINLEY: all that the prophets have spoken…
READER: ought not the Messiah to have suffered…
DR. KINLEY: ought not the Messiah have suffered…
READER: these things…
DR. KINLEY: these things…
READER: and to enter into his glory…
DR. KINLEY: and to enter into his glory…
READER: and beginning at Moses…
DR. KINLEY: That now, now you see that now, now He’s beginning at Moses. Now if he has to begin there then that is where you are going to have to begin. Now I am going to make it clear what I am talking about there too. Moses wrote the Genesis, and the Exodus, the Leviticus, and the Numbers, and the Deuteronomy. Moses wrote ‘em. That is where you have to begin. Do you understand?
RESPONSE: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: Now that means this: There will be no need for you coming up here telling me about the book of Enoch. There will be no need you coming up here telling me about the book of Abraham. Do you see what I mean? Or the book of Jasper, Moses didn’t write that, listen now, Yahweh wrote that book Himself and Moses just seen his name in it when he was up in the mountain along with all the rest of ‘em. See. Now before I could begin there with Moses in Exodus… (Now that is after the flood, after the Garden of Eden and everything, you see there?)
Now this angel appeared in this burning bush and talked with, I said this angel, now don't forget now somebody said you said angel, a while ago you said Yahweh, see, and pretty soon you’ll be talking about Elohim. See. “Well I’m confused. I don’t understand you.” Well I’ll fix it so you can understand that’s what I am trying to do now. Yahweh said to Moses, “I will be what I will to be.” I am the Angel in the bush. I am the Elohim in the bush, do you see?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Do you get the point?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: I am Yahweh in the bush. I’m everything there is in the bush and without me there isn’t anything. I am the Michael’s, the Gabriel’s, the ark angels, Moses and everything else, that’s me. I will be anything I want to be, you understand?
There is always somebody trying to question, “Well, why did God pick out some idiot like Henry C. Kinley?” See. Somebody asked that question. Why did He do that? Well, why don't you ask Him? See just got a whole lot of fool talk and haven’t stopped to meditate how foolish [INAUDIBLE] you do talk. Which means that He’s you and He’s everybody else, you understand? That is what He is, the “All in All”, folks that’s it. Now do you see what I’m talking about?
I’m trying to lead you up on this thing so you can see, so that you can understand, so that you won’t need to blunder no more. Now [INAUDIBLE] now when I call these scriptures, you remember, bear this in mind. Some folks setting around here and they are looking at the clock, you see, they are looking at the clock. Don't you waste a hold lot of time trying to find what I am trying to telling you about while you are looking at the clock instead of looking at the pictures and no need of going over this cause it won’t be benefiting. You understand? See.
Now Yahshuā [INAUDIBLE] your bible, see, Yahweh told Moses, now you heard that, there’s no need of me keeping on, keeping on, keeping on, going over all that at the burning bush. See. He told Moses to take off his shoes and He gave him signs and Moses was just like us complaining about his impediment of speech, see, and his inadequacy and his insufficiency, see, to go back down into Egypt and not only that, “But I killed a man down there and I run off out here and I don't want to go back down in there and face him.” And this is what he didn’t know, see, and He told him right there at the burning bush, “Now I took care of him. He’s not alive down there anymore, so you don’t need to worry about him.” Do you see what I mean? Moses didn't even know he was dead, you see? So he’s telling Moses about it at the burning bush, you see, you follow?
Then Moses told Him about his impediment of speech. See. Who made man’s mouth? See. You get the point? Now who does the speaking? Yahweh does the speaking. [INAUDIBLE] go around [INAUDIBLE] disqualified [INAUDIBLE] a long line of the Jews, you understand? [INAUDIBLE] not many wise, not many noble are called and the most humble person, you see, and sometimes the illiterate person he’ll pick up. See. Now that’s how His power is manifested. He chose the weak things of this world to bring to naught. He said, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise and bring to naught the understanding of the prudent.” And when I did that, He removed them carnal things you bringing them on to this side of the cross [INAUDIBLE]. You don't know a thing about what you are talking about. You understand what I mean?
RESPONSE: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: I mean when Yahshua the Messiah fulfilled these natural things and nailed them to the cross and in this present dispensation, now you’re walking in the spirit them carnal ordinances are gone. Every bit of those natural carnal ordinances gone: water baptism, foot washing, lord suppers, and communions and so forth. All of it is gone, so far as natural things. See. Now that was taught under the dispensation of the law which is here on the chart and every ordinance that Yahweh fulfilled it was physical, it was natural, it was given to the Jew, not the Gentile. See.
Now that’s what we’re saying that’s under the law, now watch this one, watch this one. Yahshua the Messiah said, “I come to fulfill”. They say He instituted. You understand? [INAUDIBLE] …even the Jews, you see. Now here is what I want to tell you, now this is the law here contained in ordinances. Look up here now on this chart, right here. You see these hearts in here?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now this is day by day and [INAUDIBLE]. You see what I mean? That is the law, the law of the Spirit of Life, which is in Yahshua the Messiah, so says the Apostle. Right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now I try to tell you the difference: there’s a difference between the Mosaic Law here and the law contained in ordinances, and the law of the Spirit of Life. That law of the Spirit of Life is what brought everything into existence. You would have never…its wonderful folks. You see what I mean? Now you quit tangling it up, this law, see. The Law of the Spirit, the law contained in ordinances, now let’s throw another law in there and that’s your Civil Law, your Constitutional Law. You see? Now you got three laws, you see. And you go around and mix them all up together you don’t know what it’s all about. You get the point?
RESPONSE: Um, hum.
DR. KINLEY: Now, get after the hard part. Now remember, and you listen; see, while I try to get this story together. Now you see that He appeared to Moses, this type of burning bush is a vision. It wasn’t a bush sitting out there near Mount Bushy on fire. Do you understand me? It wasn’t like that. Get the point? [INAUDIBLE]
…if you did or investigate and Yahweh said to Moses, “Come nigh hinder, Moses. Stop where you are. Take off your shoes off of your feet for the place on the ground where you stand is holy ground.” See. Now Yahweh had dedicated that place, you can’t show everything. You see. Now that tabernacle, this Most Holy Place should be right where the bush is, because it represents the Shekinah. What do you mean Shekinah? See. A light flashed through the bush, you know a fire or something like that, you see. [INAUDIBLE]
…when the High Priest went into the Most Holy Place every year. He could only be in there one day, now look folks, you’re in that day now. Yahweh didn’t show it to nobody but Moses back here, ‘cause He took Moses up into this mount alone and by himself. Can’t you see the impossibility of every Tom, Dick and Harry understanding? They didn’t see it. You get the point?
On the Day of Atonement, Aaron had to go into the Most Holy Place by this pattern and alone. Don’t you see there’s no possibility of every Tom, Dick and Harry understanding that? See. And alone and by himself John was out there on the Isle of Patmos to confirm what Moses saw, you understand? That’s the reason why nobody can do it. You see what I mean? He said he preserved his life. Do you understand? Now watch now and listen. Now Yahshua the Messiah said, “I come to fulfill.” [INAUDIBLE] …now is that what He said?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now we’ve been harping on that for a long time. See. Now if He come to fulfill, how can you say that He instituted? He never instituted a thing when He was here. Now let’s get this straight. Get these two things straight. Now I said that Yahweh just took on a physical body, wasn’t born of no woman at all, and walked around back there in Egypt. See. I’m not talking about being born of the mother, of the virgin mother earth. I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about the power of Yahweh to just take on a physical body and walked around down there. You see what I mean? [INAUDIBLE] …they are saying or calling that individual Joshuā in your book, see, you following me now?
Now He’s down in Egypt, that’s what He’s telling them, that’s why we had the 24th chapter of Joshuā read. Those are deep esoteric mysteries and deep plan. See. Well, somebody said, “Well I don’t believe…” We got plenty bible for it. We know you don’t understand the bible. How could you agree? That’s what I’m trying to tell you about. You see?
Now when did He appear down there? Moses slew the Egyptian and run on off there in the wilderness. He was 40 years old when he slew the Egyptian. That’s 40. Well, maybe somebody got to have, might have to get up here with me, get you something around here to write on the blackboard. I am going to try to ease you through this one so that after my departure you won’t be dismayed. You see.
Now, get back, 10 years Moses, let’s put it this way, Moses when he was 40 years old having been raised up in the family of Pharaoh, Pharaoh's daughter raised up Moses. You understand? And when he was 40 years old he went out and he saw an Egyptian smiting a Hebrew and he killed the Egyptian and buried him in the sand. Now he was 40 years old at that time. Now he run off and he was out here in the wilderness for 40 years. Right? Now that’s 80 years and when he was 80 years old Yahweh appeared to him at that burning bush and told him to come back down into Egypt and to take the children of Israel out.
Now you will find some of this in the 3rd chapter of Exodus. And Moses asked him at the burning bush, “Where will you be? Certainly I will be, I will be right there with you.” And then Yahweh going to set somewhere, [INAUDIBLE] anything happens to you. You understand? You get the point? Said, “I’ll be right with you”. So when he got down into Egypt him and Aaron [INAUDIBLE] ‘cause Moses had an impediment of speech over and over and over [INAUDIBLE] …you see? That’s all Yahshua the Messiah going to do repeat over and over and over and over, and over and over and over, and over and over…and over and over and over. Do you understand?
That’s the reason why Moses had that impediment of speech, standing there saying to Pharaoh the same thing seven times by the pattern. Well, why seven, don't do you see there are seven days in here, there’s seven ages and seven dispensations and all it’s ever gonna do is over and over and over the same thing the analogies and symbols and whatnots. When Pharaoh couldn't get it together the continuity of thought by Moses, Aaron just went ahead and took over, you see, you understand? [INAUDIBLE] charts painted. You get the point? You see that now? Now that’s all these charts are. [INAUDIBLE] …over, and over and over the same thing. Is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: [INAUDIBLE] Did you get that one?
RESPONSE: Yes. Um, hum.
DR. KINLEY: I said did you get that one? Anybody that didn’t hold up your hand. Alright, now here is what I mean by that, the same thing in this one, is the same thing in this one, is the same thing in this one, is the same thing, is the same thing all the way. Do you see what I mean? That’s all it is. See. Now, get back now, he slew the Egyptian when he was 40 years old he run off and stayed out there in the wilderness for 40 years, right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Then Yahweh spoke to him and told him to go back down there and get the children of Israel and he was 80 years old at that time. Is that almost right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: And Moses went back down there and he meets this Joshuā as you call Him, which really is Yahshua, Yahshua the Messiah. See. Now listen, He instituted the Passover down in Egypt, do you see? [INAUDIBLE] …question mark: Why did He do that?
[PART B]
…take the lamb out or a goat, and the blood drawn out on April the 10th Nisan or Abib in the Hebrew. Draw him out on the 10th and offer him up. Put its blood on each side of the lintel of the door, is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: On the 10th, I mean on the 14th. Well now why didn’t you pick some other date? See. He was the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world and He created the heavens and the earth in seven days and Moses saw it in a vision. Is that right?
RESPONSE: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: Now that’s the first step, see, which is back here in the realm of eternity of the creation of the heaven and the earth. He was a Lamb slain before that. You see that?
RESPONSE: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: Because it was to be seven days to create that or to show Moses the vision of the creation, you understand? So now since this is gonna be the second time that He called him up here on the 14th. Seven more, 7 and 7 is 14. Did you get that one? You follow. Now here back here is where it was instituted in reality, the purpose back here, but to the people on this earth plane, you see, and this type and this shadow to reflect it and show it back there see because…up over the door post. Is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Who said that? I’m talking about Yahshua, Yahshua the Messiah now that’s who I am talking about. He told Moses and Aaron, see, and you say Jesus, now see who did it?
RESPONSE: Yes. Um, hum. Um, hum.
DR. KINLEY: Well somebody said, “No, I thought God did that.” No, that is what I am telling you. You see? Moses walking around here with Yahshuā, see. You get that? He just took on that physical body and walked around in it. That’s right. Now somebody would doubt that. If you turn back to the 24th chapter, the 24th chapter of Exodus and you’’ll find there, now I want you to see what I am talking about. You will find I have to cut this up short that Joshuā was Moses’ minister, that Joshuā was a young man, watch it now, when He appeared down in Egypt walking around, I’m getting, getting back at it now, what I am saying now, this is the fulfillment. You see. I told you Moses was 40 years old, he slew the Egyptian, he ran out and stayed 40 years in the wilderness. Is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: That’s 10 years after Moses had gone out here. Ten years when Joshua was down there in Egypt, see, observing and beholding. Why not [INAUDIBLE] after Moses had gone out. At the time He sent Moses down into Egypt he was only 30 years old. He had that body on walking around at 30 years old. Somebody say, “I don’t believe that.” How is a person going to believe that? How are you going to believe something you don’t know nothing about? If you told me you believed it, I would say, “Look buddy you just quit lying.” See. You get the point?
So then when He brings them on out, see, let me show you that, now He is 30 years old at this time when He brings them out. That’s what you read in the 24th chapter of Joshuā. Joshuā assembled all the elders of Israel in Shechem, see? And He told them that it was me, I did this and I did that and I did the other. See. Now He is 30 years old, see. Now watch this one now, it has got to be that way, there’s no other way. So now when He comes along to fulfill it, the book says that He was about 30 years old. Now He’s gonna fulfill that. See. Now if He’s gonna fulfill it, what was back here, you see, He has to be 30 years old here, He has to be 30 years old here, in order to fulfill it. See. You see that now? Not to institute it, but to fulfill it. You follow me?
RESPONSE: Yes.
DR. KINLEY: Now then, they were in the wilderness and stayed there for 40 years, put that on. [SOMEONE IS WRITING ON THE BOARD.] Joshua was with them when they went into the wilderness, put that 40 here, crossed over the River Jordan, see, in the conquest and invasion of Israel or the Canaan’s Land and He was there 40 years. That was the land which Yahweh had promised, add it up: one hundred and ten. He died at 110, put 10 more on it. Put it right up there. How much you got there now? 120. What you put the 10 years on there for? See. Now they had only been here 40 years, you understand, out in Palestine 40 years. Do you understand?
Moses told them that when they were in there, you understand? Listen now every 50th year will be the Year of Jubile when all the slaves and the captives would be set free. But Joshua hadn’t been in there but 40 years. Israel hadn’t celebrated no 50th year over here, no year of Jubile, when they would set the captives free and so forth and so on. Let the land rest a whole year. You see? And Joshua gathered, gathered them together when He was 110 years old. You see that now? And He told them all about being down here in Egypt with them, talked about being over yonder with Abraham, about the flood and all about back in there. Didn’t He tell them that?
RESPONSE: Yeah. Right.
DR. KINLEY: Abraham was a long time before Moses. Oh I tell you Yahweh is so wonderful, that’s right. And He said here is Moses and told Moses at this burning bush, I appeared unto Abraham, I appeared unto Isaac, and I appeared unto Jacob, see. The Pharisees and Scribes, you understand, they questioned. He said, “Before Abraham was I am”. They said, “You are not yet 50 years old”. You see the point? You get the point?
RESPONSE: Yes, sir.
DR. KINLEY: [INAUDIBLE] Now at this 110, that makes it 120 (10 years) and it was 10 years after Joshuā had died they celebrated their first 50th year in Palestine, Canaan’s Land. [INAUDIBLE] Now Joshuā’s 110, now I’m after something. I told you I had to cut it up short and take these short cuts. And I’m telling you now I want you to remember this after I depart. I don’t want you to forget it, ever forget it, if you don’t see me no more. Do you understand? Now 50th year, every 50th year is the Year of Jubile. See.
Now Joshua He told them that, that’s what’s in that book, that He fought and brought them up on out of Egypt and there is something else I want you to know, Joshua carried them across the River Jordan and this ended their conquest. How about that?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: These were the ones that were born, Caleb and Joshua, not Joshua was born down there. [INAUDIBLE] Caleb, Ēleazar and Phinehas. Now who is Phinehas? You read it here in the book, Phinehas is Ēleazar’s father. Ēleazar is Aaron’s… Phinehas is Aaron’s grandson. Now we talk about Yahshuā being down there, we talked about it being Yahweh, we talked about it being Elohim, we talked about it being Yahshua; is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: See. That’s all. You see? Now that’s what you are, see. Don’t get jealous, don’t get jealous, just take it easy, that’s what’s there and everywhere else. If you didn’t know it before just take it easy. [INAUDIBLE] See that man said he was this, that and the other, do you understand? You too.
What is the difference then? It was revealed to me, I found out about it and I am trying to tell you about it, that’s all. You see the point? That’s all there is to it. Ain’t no big I’s and little you’s down here. You get the point? You are just as big as anybody else, now look this is how you find that out. And this new covenant was made with Israel, He said they will all know me from the least to the greatest even the even the janitor and the one that feeds the dogs out there. [INAUDIBLE] Folks ain’t got nothing on me, see what I am talking about? You mean folks ain’t got nothing on you, no they ain’t got nothing on me, I ain’t got nothing on you. You say I’m the man [INAUDIBLE]. Do you see what I am trying to say to you? [INAUDIBLE]
Now the first part I told you about all three of them manifested right here, down here in Egypt them that was born from out here except Caleb, Ēleazer and who else?
RESPONSE: Phinehas.
DR. KINLEY: Those were the only ones that come out and crossed over this River Jordan except Joshua, you see what I mean, ‘cause He is not born down there. [INAUDIBLE] You got it now? [INAUDIBLE] Did you find where he was Moses minister?
RESPONSE: Uh, huh.
DR. KINLEY: Well, suppose you read it.
READER: And Yahweh…Yahweh said come up to me in the mount and be there.
DR. KINLEY: Don’t take too long now.
READER: and I will give you tables of stone and a law of the land which I have written that thou may teach them and Moses rose up and his minister…
DR. KINLEY: Wop, wop, wop, hold it and Moses rose up and who?
READER: and his minister…
DR. KINLEY: and his minister…
READER: Joshua.
DR. KINLEY: Joshua. Now folks what I am telling you is that is Yahshua. That’s why when He pressed the loins of the virgin Mary and walked on out there, you see, He came from Nazareth, you see, in fulfillment of the prophecy, ate that Passover in Nazareth with his parents, come walking down by the River Jordan, and when He gets to John the Baptist He comes to him to be baptized. It’s time for him to be baptized and John said I need to be baptized of you, do you understand? He said, “Suffer it to be so now John”, watch the [INAUDIBLE] now, “for thus it behooves us to fulfill all this that I instituted back here”. See. And look they was 30 years old. He has to be 30 years old when He went through here, just like He is 30 years old over here. If there is a cloud here, it’s got to be a cloud there. See. Fulfilling, not instituting. That devil tells you He is instituting Christian water baptism, see, instituting lord supper, you understand? He’s fulfilling, you see, get it now? He is 30 years old and when He’s down in Egypt, then 40 years. I don’t have time to go into all that. I don’t have time [INAUDIBLE]. Now Joshuā [INAUDIBLE] Mt. Zion [INAUDIBLE] Jehovah Witnesses say [INAUDIBLE] where you just read He told all Israel, and He told them about how [INAUDIBLE]. Right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: And they had made it them that were born in here, went through here and then reached Mt. Zion and the land was divided up, Joshuā did it. Eleazer was there and Phinehas was there [INAUDIBLE] here divided up, now those were the elders, those were the [INAUDIBLE] with the exception of [INAUDIBLE]. Those were the ones that was with Him on Mt. Zion. The 14th chapter of Revelation, 7th chapter, 7th chapter, the 7th chapter of Revelation first now get about the 3rd verse, now I am trying to tie it in now.
READER: Saying, hurt not the earth…
DR. KINLEY: Where are you reading?
READER: 7th chapter
DR. KINLEY: I think the 3rd verse
READER: Saying, hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our Elohim in their foreheads…
DR. KINLEY: That’s right.
READER: and I heard the number…
DR. KINLEY: Ought, ought, ought, ought, ought, ought, ought, ought, ought, right there, right there. See? When Israel come up out of here, see, Yahweh told Moses to take a collection or [INAUDIBLE], is that right?
RESPONSE: That’s right.
DR. KINLEY: And build Him a sanctuary that He might dwell among them, is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Now I have to chop it up short. This is what I am trying to show you, from 20 years old and up they had to bring that shekel of the sanctuary. Now there was 600, how many? 603.
RESPONSE: 603,550.
DR. KINLEY: Now that’s a number. Write number on it, Doc, some kinda way. There was a number that’s wrote down in this book. See. Where you find it at in the book? Now I don’t have time now you find it. Now look there’s some folks up here that were born in the wilderness that went through the River Jordan, brought on up and it was divided up and there was no number. Joshuā circumcised them, but didn’t reveal the number. You see? Did not reveal the number of them born in the wilderness. You see? Now He told John on the Isle of Patmos, write it in a book. John said I heard the number, [INAUDIBLE]. Read it again.
READER: and I heard the number of them which were sealed and there were sealed 144,000…
DR. KINLEY: there were sealed 144,000…
READER: of all the tribes…
DR. KINLEY: of all the 12 tribes…
DR. KINLEY: In other words he is multiplying twelvefold. Twelve tribes up there multiplying, you understand? It‘s Yahshuā the Lamb standing out there on Mount Zion. [INAUDIBLE] Listen folks that was their destination coming up out of Egypt? He had to take them to where they were going, they had a mile wide, that land given back to them, you understand? Say it was promised to Abraham [INAUDIBLE]. Do you understand what I am talking about?
Since nobody knew the number, John said I heard the voice 144,000 was multiplied, multiplied twelvefold and here’s something else I want you to know, there’s fighting going up here, there’s fighting, [INAUDIBLE] now you pay attention to me, never mind that moving around [INAUDIBLE] all this that and the other, you know. Get the point? See, bam, [INAUDIBLE]. You see what I am talking about? [INAUDIBLE] Walked around the walls of Jericho seven times [SOUND OF MARCHING FEET] and on the last time round there fell the wall. [INAUDIBLE] Now that doesn’t mean there wasn't know fighting at all back here, physical fight back here, but I’m just trying to show you how Yahweh take care of the job you just can’t overcome it. See, anything you… [INAUDIBLE] …He will take care of the job. You get the point?
[INAUDIBLE] Yahshuā throw it on out there, is that right? After He crossed over the River Jordan, you understand? Now I ought to be able to [INAUDIBLE] now they mourned Moses [INAUDIBLE], then Joshua gives them three days [INAUDIBLE]. Is that right? What’s that for? Came down here 40 years in the wilderness than crossed over, was there in Egypt, you understand? That’s a death, now listen on up further [INAUDIBLE], you understand? I gave it to the [INAUDIBLE] now you can see why He was baptized of John [INAUDIBLE] He had to do that in order to do this [INAUDIBLE]. Do you see it? You have to see why He had to be baptized.
Now here is something else you can see, you see we have on this chart. Now if Yahshua was 33 years old [INAUDIBLE] and then crossed over, [INAUDIBLE] you see; now you can see where Joshua or Oshea had to stay in the wilderness for 40 years, then He comes over the River Jordan there you see, then the 40 years there, see 40, 40, then you ought to be able to see this when He was buried in Joseph's new tomb and He raised from the grave and tarried on earth 40 more days, see, back there in the wilderness 40 years, [INAUDIBLE] 30 years old when He went into his ministry, is that right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: See. Baptized and went in the wilderness and stayed 40, right?
RESPONSE: Right.
DR. KINLEY: Crucified and resurrected and tarried, there’s 40. How many is that?
RESPONSE: One hundred and ten.
DR. KINLEY: One hundred and ten. Then He tarried on earth 40 days after His resurrection and ascended on into heaven, and 10 days one day for prophetic time, one day for a year, and on the 10th day after, which is equivalent to the [INAUDIBLE], He pours out the holy spirit, that makes the year of Jubilee, when the holy spirit was poured out and them that was held in the bondage of death, you understand, and all the captives [INAUDIBLE]. Do you understand? [INAUDIBLE] Do you understand? This is the year of Jubilee we ain’t gonna do nothing else this whole year, [INAUDIBLE] halleluYAH, [INAUDIBLE] you understand? You see that?
You see how I got that 110 and see how I put that 10 on that, the year of Jubilee, you understand? Now somebody said look you got it all twisted up, that man don't know what he’s talking about. Well I'm gonna let you read. See? Now I’m gonna tell you what I want you to read. Read the last couple of verses, listen, in the 11th chapter of Hebrews and while you are reading for God’s sake, [INAUDIBLE] as you say these are the same [INAUDIBLE] Jews being talked.
READER: of whom the world was not worthy…
DR. KINLEY: of whom the world was not worthy…
READER: they wandered in deserts…
DR. KINLEY: they wandered in deserts…
READER: and in mountains, and in dens…
DR. KINLEY: in mountains, and in dens…
READER: and caves of the earth.
DR. KINLEY: and caves of the earth.
READER: And these all…
DR. KINLEY: And these all…
READER: having obtained a good report…
DR. KINLEY: having obtained a good report…
READER: through faith…
DR. KINLEY: through faith…
READER: received not the promise.
DR. KINLEY: received not the promise.
READER: Yahweh having provided…
DR. KINLEY: Yahweh having provided…
READER: some better thing for us…
DR. KINLEY: some better thing for us…, read.
READER: that they without…
DR. KINLEY: Wait, them that, them that reached Mt. Zion back there with Joshua, you know what I’m talking about, the 144,000 and that is the reason John said he looked and saw another number that no man could number, you see. [INAUDIBLE]. Read the 11th chapter, is that right? He was caught up, talking about those Jews, you understand, that was back there [INAUDIBLE]. We gonna to read and see if it ain’t so and then the 12th chapter of Hebrew and see if it ain’t so. We want you to read from the 20th verse, rather the 18th verse. Watch it close.
READER: For ye are not come unto the mount…
DR. KINLEY: ye are not come unto the mount…Read on.
READER: that might be touched.
DR. KINLEY: …that might be touched: Mt. Zion, Mt. Sinai. [INAUDIBLE] Where everything goes up there… [INAUDIBLE] …carnal mind… [INAUDIBLE] …those damnable spirits. They had this Passover down here, he is the Passover, do you understand? John caught up in the spirit then the real thing appears. You look at one another you’re looking at the natural which is just a type, the real thing is the [INAUDIBLE], you looking at one another all you are doing is looking at is a type and a shadow, look Adam died, nothing but a type and a shadow. I want you to see now, how the heaven and earth will pass away [INAUDIBLE] that is the reality. Now you see what I’m talking about? Now hear the Apostle Paul said, “For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched.” Well why not?
READER: and that burned with fire...
DR. KINLEY: and that burned with fire… Mt. Sinai did that, is that right? And that fire and the children of Israel in their eye sight it was a burning fire in their eyes. Moses come to the mount that could be touched and the top of that mount is allegorical to Jerusalem above, you understand what I’m talking about? And the top and middle of it was liken unto the holy place, and the bottom was just like down in Egypt. The liver up in here [INAUDIBLE] He has got to come up here into Mount Sinai, but it did fit the dimensions that liver [INAUDIBLE]. Yahshua the Messiah said I am the way, I’m the truth and I’m the liver [INAUDIBLE]. Now He taketh away all that natural, these carnal ordinance that was given to them in the wilderness. [INAUDIBLE] Pick it up and read.
READER: …but you have come unto Mt. Zion and to the city of the living…
DR. KINLEY: and to the city of the living…
DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute, why don't you get this straight, listen folks [INAUDIBLE] you see, they done lied and some idiot is telling you there’s 144,000 in the earth plane, that’s going to heaven. You see what I mean? And none…we already arrived, you see. You see? “But ye are come”, come to what?
READER: Unto Mount Zion…
DR. KINLEY: Unto Mount Zion…
READER: Unto the city of the living Elohim…
DR. KINLEY: Unto the city of the living Elohim…
READER: the heavenly Jerusalem…
DR. KINLEY: the heavenly, not the earthly, the heavenly Jerusalem.
READER: and to an innumerable…
DR. KINLEY: and to an innumerable, and to an innumerable company of angels…
READER: to the general assembly…
DR. KINLEY: to the general assembly…
READER: to the congregation of the firstborn…
DR. KINLEY: to the congregation of the firstborn…
READER: which are written in heaven…
DR. KINLEY: which arose or are written in heaven…
READER: and to Yahweh the judge…
DR. KINLEY: and to Yahweh the judge… [INAUDIBLE] Now you see? Now you and your little carnal mind you can't see nothing, somebody shooting firecrackers over yonder at Israel, do you understand? Walking around talking about you are that number of the earthly class, sitting out on Mt. Zion. Jehovah Witness taught that. Now the 14th chapter of Revelation.
READER: and I looked and behold a lamb…
DR. KINLEY: and I looked and behold a lamb…
READER: stood on the mount Zion…
DR. KINLEY: a lamb stood out there on Mr. Zion…
READER: and with him was 144,000…
DR. KINLEY: 144,000…
READER: having his name…
DR. KINLEY: having his name…
READER: and his fathers name…
DR. KINLEY: and his fathers name, Yahshua
READER: written in their foreheads…
DR. KINLEY: written in their foreheads. You understand? Read on.
READER: and I heard a voice…
DR. KINLEY: and I heard a voice…
READER: from heaven as the voice of many waters…
DR. KINLEY: as the voice of many waters…
READER: as the voice of great thunder…
DR. KINLEY: as the voice of great thunder…
READER: and I heard the voice…
DR. KINLEY: and I heard the voice…
READER: of harpers harping…
DR. KINLEY: of harpers harping…
READER: with their harps…
DR. KINLEY: with their harps…
READER: and they sung as it were…
DR. KINLEY: and they sung as it were…
READER: a new song…
DR. KINLEY: a new song…
READER: before the throne…
DR. KINLEY: before the throne…
READER: and before the four living creatures…
DR. KINLEY: and before the four living creatures…
READER: and the elders…
DR. KINLEY: and the elders…
READER: and no man could learn that song…
DR. KINLEY: and no man could learn that song…
READER: but the 144,000 which was redeemed on the earth.
DR. KINLEY: …which was redeemed on the earth. [INAUDIBLE] Now Yahshua fulfilled this with that last Passover, last Passover, is that right? Before he rose from the dead, and they went on out and crossed over the brook Cedron and entered into the Garden of Gethsemane and out there in the garden [INAUDIBLE], that’s the reason for that angel back there in the garden with Eve, you see what I am talking about? All he is doing folks is fulfilling. Now there were 144,000 born in the wilderness that went on out to Mt. Zion and Yahshua heard the number called, He circumcised them here, they don’t know how many out here there. Joshua through the River Jordan didn’t have that number on Him, [INAUDIBLE] through the veil into the Most Holy Place you get that straight. River Jordan than up here… You remember now. Now you repeat what you just said. [INAUDIBLE]
READER: and they sung as it were a new song before the throne…
DR. KINLEY: No, I don't want that. I want how many, that they had to come. That’s what I’m talking about. The 12th chapter of Hebrews.
READER: For we are not come unto the mount that might be touched…
DR. KINLEY: Now look Dr. Harris you are a medical doctor. Roger is that right? LaSalle you can read can’t you, is there anybody in here that don’t have sense to know [INAUDIBLE]? See ‘cause them Jews that were back there had the song of victory. Now Jehovah Witnesses are saying, are you one of the 144,000 in the earth plane? [INAUDIBLE] Do you see? This is a [INAUDIBLE] Jews here, and the Gentiles. [INAUDIBLE] That make up that great multitude that no man can number, can you see? And come in from [INAUDIBLE].
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