Predestination

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Lecture given by Dr. Kinley in 1974 in Springfield, Ohio.

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1. PAUSE WORDS HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT, UNLESS EMPHASIZED BY DR. KINLEY, SUCH AS: (AH, SEE, YOU SEE, YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN, YOU FOLLOW, IS THAT RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT, YOU GET IT NOW), THEREBY MAKING IT EASIER TO READ WITH CONTINUITY OF THOUGHT. 2. ... INDICATES THAT DR. KINLEY ENDED A WORD OR A SENTENCE WITHOUT VERBALLY COMPLETING IT. 3 ------ INDICATES AN INAUDIBLE WORDS OR SYLLABLE



DR. KINLEY: I'm always happy to speak to the people of Yahweh, because this is worth them looking into, and this is where they have underwent many hard tribulations and trials. But nevertheless, we have come to our own faults because we've told you the truth just like it is.

Now, I told you in the beginning that this school was founded as the result of a vision and a revelation that was given to me from Yahweh. When I first saw the vision I didn't understand it, and then it had to be revealed before I understood it. But when it was revealed to me, the understanding of what I saw in the vision, then I understood.

Now, this is one of the things I wanna say in front of you. If you notice at the close at each one of these ages, Yahweh has sent somebody along to tell the people the truth. Now it was not a speculative thing. Now it was Yahweh Himself that would have contact and communication with that individual, such as Noah. Noah knew nothing at all about Yahweh going to drown the world with water; he didn't know a thing about it until Yahweh showed it to him. We come on down to, (this is not the close of an age but a dispensation). We come on down to the children of Israel down in the land of Egypt. Now He just didn't send every Tom, Dick, and Harry down there to tell them people anything. And He didn't send Moses down there to tell him something he hadn't seen or knew nothing about; He showed him and He told him. And what He told him to tell Pharaoh and the children of Israel was true. And Moses got that direct from Yahweh. And as we come on down, (I'd like to say it this way). Now Yahweh Elohim, (now here's one of the things that the people can't buy because they don't understand it). They don't realize that Yahweh Elohim was incarnated in Yah-o-shua back there with Moses. They don't understand that. They don't recognize that, and they don't realize that. And He was in direct communication and contact with him at all times. At one time the Israelites asked him (Moses I'm talking about), "What should they do about eating the Passover if they had touched a dead man's body?" Many of them was slain in the wilderness. And Moses, the first thing he said, "I don't know I'll have to ask Yahweh Elohim." Now he didn't try to go along and tell him a bunch of junk like we usually do. He just said "I don't know!" Said "I'll have to ask the Lord, or have to ask, I'll have to ask Yahweh Elohim." Now could you conceive in your mind him asking Yahweh Elohim when he didn't know nothing about where He was, didn't have no idea where you go to find Him at, or to contact Him! Could you conceive a thing like that in your mind? That really just doesn't make sense! So he went in and he asked the person you call Joshua. And Joshua told him, said "If they had touched a dead man's body they couldn't eat the Passover, but thirty days after they could eat it." Now here comes Paul a little further down, on this highway going to Damascus, and he saw Yahshua. Now remember, (a lot'a people don't take this in consideration, they don't think about this, they don't know nothing about it). Now when Paul saw Him on the way going to Damascus, He had resurrected from the dead, He ascended into heaven. Now this is after the ascension and after the pouring out of the Holy Spirit and the establishment of the New Covenant, this is afterward. Now then the question comes to Paul, "Well, what about it Paul? Was you in the body or out of the body?" Paul said, "I don't know, whether in the body or out of the body, said that I don't know." But some things he did know, and that was that he saw Him and he communicated with Him, and He called him by his name, and told him to go on down to Damascus, down on Straight Street, mind you, and Ananias would be down there. See He had a man waiting on him down there, and He was down there. Now that man was in contact and communicated with Him. Now what the Apostle wanted to do, he wanted to go back up to Jerusalem and jump on them up there that denied the resurrection of Yahshua the Messiah and bribed the soldiers at the tomb, cause he had seen for himself. And no man that has ever seen into it like the Apostles and Moses, and would you allow me to throw myself in too?

STUDENTS: Yeah! All right. Go right ahead.

DR. KINLEY: Now there's nothing you can do in my case. The Devil just don't have no, uh, he don't have nothing to offer me. You know what I mean? Nothing he says about me don't, don't bother me at all. Because I know what I've seen, and I know him too! I know the Devil.

Now, what we got up here for us tonight is to tell you and to try to show it to you. First of all, you got this ministry messed up, and mixed up, misunderstood, now that's the first thing. "Wherefore He saith, when He ascended, He taketh captivity captive and gave gifts unto men." You have nine different gifts in your Book. And I want you to know that Yahweh is ever present at all times, (never absent), and has ordained those that understand the truth, and hath given you this ministry of reconciliation. And they've dispensed with the hidden things of dishonesty, and with alibis and excuses. They don't need to be bothered with that. Now listen, Yahweh has a purpose and He has a plan through the dispensation and ages, and He's carrying it out. Now it's you that have an adversary, the Devil, not Yahweh. No, instead of the Devil being a liability to Yahweh, he's an asset. Yes indeed, he's not no liability at all and Yahweh's got him under control. He's already said what's gone happen to him, and He knows that's His man. But now, this satanic spirit that was cast out of heaven is incarnated in physical bodies. And now listen at what I'm saying to you, I don't wanna mince words. Now they always come up with some kind of an alibi or some kind of a so-called legitimate excuse for whatsoever they believe to be right. Now, my thought here is this. Now what you are gonna have to do, (now this is without a debate, or this is without a controversy), you're gonna have to obey those that Yahweh has given you as ministers of the gospel. You may not think so, you may disagree with it, you may think otherwise, but listen, you're still gonna have to do what we say. And you are... Could I just say one thing here? This little nucleus in Springfield, Ohio, (as well as those elsewhere), this is the true Messianic body of Yahshua the Messiah on the earth. Now just in case you want me to prove that, I'll prove it. The 4th Chapter of the First Epistle of John and start to read at the first verse.

READER: Beloved. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: believe not every spirit. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now it says, don’t believe every spirit. I just got through telling you about that. Everybody comes along, and as Paul put it to the Corinthians, says "Why is it when you come together everyone of you has a doctrine? I believe this, and I believe that, and I believe the other!" They all had a doctrine! Now could you just imagine a congregation of people with their own individual and separate doctrine?...one of their own choosing and one of their own making? Don't you know that there is no way for reconciliation and agreement? Don't you know there ain't no way for nothing like that, and you got your own hard head involved. See you won't submit yourself to the righteousness and will of Yahweh, you won't do that. You wanna do to suit yourself! See, what I'm talking about? "I don't care nothing about what Dr. Kinley and nobody else says about it! I'm three times seven, I got on long pants." Now that's the way people are. Said "I, I know all about God long before I ever heard tell of Dr. Kinley. And this name, these funny names you've got up here, what's that new stuff?" I beg your pardon, you got the new stuff, and you trying to change and convert it with the old stuff. Then somebody got up and went to singing "Give me that good old time religion." (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) And then didn't even know what it was, old time religion. Yes indeed, and shout on it too, and it takes two or three people to restrain 'em too. "Give me that old time religion." Well that's Yahweh, Elohim and Yahshua. Said, "What'd you say? Said I said the Old Time Religion, you misunderstood me!" Naw I didn't, I understood you, that's the old time religion. Do you see it? Do you understand what I'm talking about? Now you're gonna have to hear.

Now, let me get down on the subject. The subject for tonight is PREDESTINATION. The folks have gotten that thing all twisted up, now like this: They say, "Well, if you go out here and go across the street and you get killed out there in the street, or get hit by an automobile, you were predestined for that, or that's predestined to happen." That's not what the Apostle is talking about. That's not the true meaning of predestination. Now what is the true meaning of predestination? Now if Yahweh had a purpose and a plan that He will not digress and deviate from, and you came out by Elohim through Yahshua the Messiah (I mean came out of the Father)... Now let me see if I can get that fixed too, cause just saying that, oftentimes that go right on over somebody's head. The 17th chapter of Matthew, and where one of your poets or philosophers has said, you are the offspring of Yahweh, and John 3:16. Get this word, Philoprogenitiveness. That means the instinctive love of, offspring. That's what it means. Now here in the 16th, uh, 17th chapter of Rev.., uh, Acts of Apostles, read that.

READER: for in him we live. . . DR. KINLEY: 17:30 READER: And the times of this ignorance Yahweh winked at. . . DR. KINLEY: Now go on back up a little further. READER: 17:28, For in Him we live and move and have our beings...

DR. KINLEY: That's right. Now see I want you to see this. I want you to understand this: "In Him we live and we move and we have our being." Now that's the way, that's... You never been outside at no time. All right, read on.

READER: as some of your own poets have said. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: for we are also His offspring. . .

DR. KINLEY: We are also His offspring. That is to say, we are His offspring, we sprung off from the Father. Now that's hard to see through, yes indeed, it ain't hard to say, but it's hard to see it. Now look, you sprung off from the Father, you are His offspring, and what else there?

READER: for as much then as you are the offspring of Yahweh DR. KINLEY: um hum READER: we ought not to think that gold and silver or stone. . . DR. KINLEY: Now you ought not to think, you ought not to think that, that gold or silver or stone. . . READER: graven by art and man's device. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: can be like the Most High. . . DR. KINLEY: can be -- huh? READER: can be like the Most High

DR. KINLEY: "Can be like the Most High." Now you hold that one, I think the 28th chapter, about the 14th chapter of Isaiah and what is it the 14th verse?

READER: 14 and uh, DR. KINLEY: Now we wanna get one to go along with this one. READER: 14:14. I will ascend above the heights of the cloud... DR. KINLEY: Now I will ascend above the heights of the cloud READER: I will be like the Most High.

DR. KINLEY: Now you see, "I will be like the Most High." Now what did you wanna say that for? Everybody wants to be as smart as everybody else! Yahweh can give you anybody He wants to give you for pastoring or assistance and whatnot, and you've decided that you're gonna do your way, and whatever you think about anything, that's it, now that's predestination. But that's not it, cause He's given you somebody that knows the Purpose, knows the Plan. And suppose you did go out there in the street and get hit by an automobile and killed, if you didn't know Yahweh you'd just be lost. Somebody say "WELL THAT WAS FOREORDAINED AND PREDESTINED TOO." All right then, now you've got a negative scripture over here. "Yahweh is not slack concerning His promise as some men count slackness, but is long suffering to usward not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance." Now how do you explain that? You just get right out of one trap and right into another unconsciously. You got the thing all twisted up. And you just read, (now listen now), you just read that at the time of that ignorance. . .

READER: Yahweh winked at. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: but now commandeth all men . . .

DR. KINLEY: "But now..." Can't say that! He can't say that unless He has given them the truth and a profound knowledge! HE CAN'T COMMAND OR DEMAND THEM, BOTH JEW AND GENTILE, TO REPENT UNLESS HE HAD GIVEN THEM THE ACTUAL TRUTH.

Now let me show you this: Now when Joshua carried these people on cross the River Jordan and carried 'em into Palestine or on into Canaan's Land, in the 24th chapter (I believe it is) of Joshua.

READER: 24:14 DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: Now therefore fear Yahweh. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and serve Him in Sincerity. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)! READER: and in truth. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)! READER: and put away the idols which your fathers. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats)! READER: served on the other side of the flood. . . DR. KINLEY: Served on the other side of the River READER: and in Egypt. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and serve ye Yahweh DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and if it seems evil unto you. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: to serve Yahweh. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: choose you this day. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now just a minute. Now if it seems evil unto you to serve Yahweh... Now remember this is Yahweh incarnated in a body talking, Joshua as you call Him, in the Book of Joshua. Now if it seems evil unto you to serve Yahweh then You Make A Choice This Day!. . .

READER: whom ye will serve. . .

DR. KINLEY: Wait a minute! MAKE A CHOICE THIS DAY whom you will serve. Couldn't say that to them people, (now listen at what I'm saying). He couldn't say that, Joshua couldn't say that to them people if they hadn't had the Law given to them back here. That's their progenitors and ancestors... They had the Law. They knew, that Yahweh spoke from that mountain and gave them that Law! And they knew what it was! There wasn't no speculation about it, they knew! So now He's telling them, said "Now if it seems evil unto you to serve Yahweh, then you make a choice! You make it this day, whom you will serve." Now when you make a choice and if you don't pick the right one, the consequences is you're lost. But they couldn't, He couldn't say that to 'em, (now listen to what I'm saying), He couldn't say that to 'em unless He had laid down the truth to 'em. And He was the one incarnated in a body that spoke from Mt. Sinai and gave them the Law, and killed up all of 'em but Phinehas, and Eleasar, and who else?

STUDENT: Caleb, Doc.

DR. KINLEY: Caleb. I'm talking about them that was born down in Egypt, it wasn't but three of 'em that made it. Somebody said "I beg your pardon it was four with Joshua." He wasn't born down there. How 'bout that? Glory me. Now do you understand what I'm talking about? Now when you have somebody to tell you what is right, then don't you come up here with that junk, telling me cause I made certain things about Yahweh, well referring to predestination, that is to something other.... Now look, here is what predestination in that Bible means. I wanna give it to you straight so you'll know what I'm talking about. Now you just read that you were the offspring of Yahweh, John 3:16. You just read that you were the offspring of Yahweh. Now here's Yahweh to His people.

READER: For Yahweh so loved the world. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now here it is, now philoprogenitiveness as you have it here on this chart: For Yahweh so loved His people, and it is an instinctive love of, offspring. Yahweh so loved His people that He gave His only, HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN, Not Created, but BEGOTTEN Son that whosoever what?

READER: believeth in Him. . . DR. KINLEY: that believeth in Him READER: should not perish. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: but have everlasting life

DR. KINLEY: "But have everlasting life." Now listen! Now listen at what I'm saying. Now you come out from Him, you go back in the same way you come out. You come out by Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua. Now listen at what I'm saying now cause I'm talking about Predestination now. NOW YOU'RE PREDESTINED TO GO RIGHT BACK THE WAY THAT YOU COME OUT! NOW THAT'S THE TRUE MEANING OF PREDESTINATION! Why is it that way? I told you about an adversary since I've been standing here. Now here's one over here, he says "I'm gone be like the Most High." He's gone put you into heaven, (the Pope I'm taking about)! Now here's Yahshua the Messiah, what He said about it, read! John. . .

READER: 24, where --- ---- DR. KINLEY: No man goes to the Father READER: Oh, that's John 14:6

DR. KINLEY: John 14:6. Now listen at what I'm telling you so you can understand what I'm talking about! Now this first man, Adam, he come out by Him. You're the offspring of Him. Now this is predestination. Now you're predestined to go back through Him! Now you got that old bastard sitting over there in Rome saying "That he has power, plenitude of power, to put you in heaven. Whatsoever he binds on earth shall be bound on earth, and whatsoever he binds in heaven, it'll be bound in heaven." Your adversary, that's what I'm talking about, (not your friend), but your adversary, he ignores everything that Yahweh says! And he's gonna be like the Most High!

Now the last time that I was up here on the floor I used some pretty harsh words, telling you about the Black Muslims. Now my job is telling folks, and then abiding and suffering by the consequences. I have to tell you, I just have to do it, that's my job. Now they said that they believe that Fhared Mohammed was the long waited Messiah. They said they believe that; that's what they believe. I say no, he is not. Now then that's what they believe. Now what they want, they want equal justice under the Law. ...[Glitch in Tape few statements missing]... instead of asking him, instead of asking Richard Nixon and their colored brethren. Now you see it's all right to fool some of the folks with some of this junk you're talking about, see but you can't fool me. Now that's just like this Pope talking about he can put you in heaven. Just like you talking about Nixon giving somebody something, and he's just about fired his own self. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) And even his own church, (Nixon is a Quaker), and they don't believe in Carnal Ordinances and the participation and practice of it, and they have a lot of respect for Quakerism. Now the Quakers themself done jumped down on him. Then here you stand around talking about what you want the Federal Government to give you. Now it's just down right foolishness. Now we pointed it out now, that no man goeth to the Father but by me. Well now somebody will say "Well you know I believe that the Roman Catholic is right. All my ancestors and all my people were in it, and they died and they went to heaven. And look, their fees to get them out of purgatory has been paid, and they are now in heaven." I dare you to go back and look where you buried 'em. Now that's what they believe. Now the Devil, whatever Yahweh says, the Devil is got one... I told you about the negative and the positive, the true, false, the good and the bad, I told you about all these things. And I've told you too about people in all these erroneous doctrines, what all they believe.

The Ephesians, now did you ever study anything about the Ephesians? You ought'a look it up sometime. Ephesus, it was a bad place. They believed that Dinah, of the Ephesians, would drop down to 'em. And they spent their whole time working, making ornaments and first one thing and another, for an idol deity. And Paul went in there and spoke. And when he spoke, why he spoke in the Hebrew tongue, and he also spoke to 'em in the Greek tongue, then they spoke together between themselves. And you remember that in Ephesus was one of the seven churches which was in Asia that Yahweh spoke about for the idolatry and so forth and so on. So now when it comes to these beliefs, and these concepts, and what you think and how you feel about things, and what you believe about 'em, Yahweh, give Him a little sense for enlightening the ministry so you won't have to be led all out with the previous things that doesn't amount to anything. Now listen to what I'm gone say now. I'm not gonna do anything else other than to repeat and I hope it soaks in. John 3:16 "For Yahweh so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth on Him should have everlasting life." NOW EVERY OTHER THING, OTHER THAN THAT, IS OUT. Whether you brush your teeth or how you tie your tie and then first one thing and another, that's just trivial, and that don't mean nothing. But what does mean something is, (I'm talking about predestination), that Yahweh has predestined you to go back in the way you come out from Him. Now remember this, He was as a lamb slain before the foundation of the world. So now when He's out here on Golgotha slain, that was just a manifestation of what was back here. You see that now? Which means that He predestined you to go back the way that you come out, everybody! Now that's the true meaning of predestination! Suppose you read that again over there in Ephesians.

READER: 1&5. Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Yahshua the Messiah.

DR. KINLEY: Now you see that? That's what that man, all he, see with all that he knew, he was determined not to know anything else but Yahshua the Messiah and Him crucified among you, yea resurrected from the dead. See your salvation is predicated on this! Now before you come into school, in this school, (now you listen at what I'm gone say), a whole lot of stupid and ignorant things you done, and then even after you got here, you've done a whole lot of stupid and ignorant things, you did. And if Yahweh charged you up with them then you wouldn't be here. You may not think so but that's a fact. That's what exonerates you and me. And as Paul said to the Corinthians and Ephesians and them, he said "Now I had to give you milk, couldn't give you meat." Look how long I was, 30 something years, before I could tell the people that Yahweh Elohim was incarnated in a physical body back here. They just couldn't take it! And I want you to know this too: There has been thousands of people in Los Angeles and here and around over the country that have come to this school, and heard what you had to say and got up and walked out, or left after the service and never returned. Now the reason for that is because you don't preach the stupidity that they have been accustomed to. They think you're wrong about it. And right here at 1225 West 6th Street, many, many years ago, before ever I went to Cincinnati, before ever I left Springfield the first time, Bankins and Brother Bass was there. And then we had a debate on water baptism, and Bankins said this (we knew one another pretty well, I gave him permission, just say anything you wanna say, it's all right with me). And he got up and he pointed his finger right in my face, and he shook his finger in my face. And he said how he read the Bible and he studied after some of the smartest men there was on earth, and I was the only man that he had ever heard say that water baptism wasn't valid in this dispensation. He said "You're the only man." The reason why I wanted to debate, I had five of 'em that night by myself fighting at 1225 W. 6th St. Now water baptism isn't valid, and it was given to the Jews, and these are Hebrews, any carnal ordinance. Now how 'bout that? Now let's just cover the waterfront.

Now let me tell you something about it. You can go to the library, the Ohio Public Library, and you can find books written by Mary Eddy Baker and others, 7th Day Baptist and whatnot. Now listen at what I'm saying because it's important, showing you what people believe is the truth; it's truth to them. But until somebody comes along that Yahweh has sent, you, you're just all messed up, you don't know which way to take the thing. You see what I'm talking about?

Now I'm sure that there's somebody sitting here tonight under the sound of my voice that believe that they ought to keep the Ten Commandments and live by the Golden Rules. That's, that's the way some of 'em believe when they come in this school. And some of you believe that same thing after they got in the school, BUT IT'S NOT SO. Now you open your Bible and show me anybody in class... Now this is the way, this is what I tell 'em to do in Los Angeles, since it's so many of 'em put their hand up and they ask questions -- show how smart they are. They never thought about Yahweh being as smart as you are. Somebody always wanna get glory and honor to them self instead of giving it to our Father. "Let me show you how smart I am. Well what about so and so and so and so? Well now what about this?" I say Yahweh didn't say a thing to you about no water baptism, it's not from back to back in the Bible where a Gentile... He never said a thing to you about keeping no Sabbath Day. He never said a thing to you about washing no feet and eating no Lord's Supper. That's not in the Bible. How 'bout that? Now you thought before you come in this school that that was in the Bible, didn't you? You could go out there to the Ohio Public Library and get plenty Bibles, I mean plenty books right now! But it just ain't in the Bible, it never has been. How 'bout that? Said, "Did you hear what that man said?" I hope, and I hope you'll try it, to find it. Now if you think any of that is in the Bible, you read it to me cause I need to be converted, cause I never seen it. It's not in there, it can't be. Now what did you say that for? Well now here's why I said it. Yahweh has predestined us to go back in the same way we came out. That's why I said it. Listen, He used the Jew or the Israelite. Now get this word straight too! You been saying this all the time, Israelites, Is--real--light. Now how about that? Is--real--light! That's real light! See how you can say a thing and just blunder along and don't pay no 'tention to it, and by and by stumble along. And somebody, once they see through it, and realize what you're talking about, "Oh, I never thought nothing at all about it." You see what I'm talking about? But that's real light.

Now, when He gave the Israelites the Types and the Shadows, NOT THE REAL THING back here, (they're natural), that's a school master to bring us up to the Spiritual thing. Now the Gentile... Say listen here, did you ever stop and think, now many of the Jews they went to John's baptism, and many of 'em rejected John's baptism. They just could not accept the baptism by John. Then afterwards, on the Day of Pentecost, when the Apostles stood and preached and the multitudes come together. . .

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. . . "Let all the house of Israel know assuredly that Yahweh raised Yahshua the Messiah from the dead. And you have with wicked hands slain the Prince of Peace. And they were pricked in their hearts and said, what shall we do? And Peter said repent everyone of you and be baptized in the Name of Yahshua the Messiah for the remission of sins, and you shall be saved." That's Acts 2:38. Now a lot of people think that's preaching water baptism, no, I beg your pardon. Now listen, I said that so I could say this: The 11th chapter of Romans, it was too late after that to baptize any of them Jews even though they believed. And it was 3000 of 'em, about 3000 was added to the church or the assembly that day. Now this is what I'm telling you: I'm telling you that it was too late for them to be baptized, and I'm gonna prove it too. It's too late for them to be baptized into His death. Question, why? Because He had already died. John had to baptize those people before He resurrected that they might be buried by water baptism unto His death, that they might be in the likeness of His resurrection. And now when they find out about it, that they had rejected Him and crucified the Prince of Glory, they asked "What shall we do?" He said, "Repent every one of you and be baptized in the Name of Yahshua the Messiah for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Now folks call that water baptism. Now that can't be, for more than one reason. Now what I'm talking about, I'm talking about predestination. Yahweh had a Purpose right from the beginning, and He's working all things after the counsel of His own will, and it goes back in. Now somebody that don't understand what I just said, they say "Well I believe this, and I believe that and I believe the other, and wanna debate and argue with you about it." And then after they got through with it, ----- ---- ----. Now listen at what I'm gonna say: Carnal ordinances, all of 'em were given to the Hebrews, there wasn't any of 'em given to the Gentile. And you don't have nothing like that in your Bible, and you can't read nothing out of there. And Yahshua the Messiah couldn't send them out, after His resurrection, to baptized in physical water or to participate and indulge in any kind of ordinances, because He was made manifest to abolish and move 'em out of the way. Now listen, this is the Law contained in ordinances, but the Law of the Spirit of Life, the Law of the Spirit of Life which is in Yahshua the Messiah... Now you listen at me! Paul is talking about the Jews, hath made us free, the Jews! And finally the Gentiles they were grafted in and finally then they too were free. "Hath made me free from the Law of Sin and Death!" And here you are you still yet wanna preach to me the Law! Now that's, what that really means is this: Yahweh is Spirit, and it is by the Spirit that these things come into existence, and they have to go back out in the spirit again. Now, Yahweh's given you ministers to get you up out of this petty junk, foolishness, and to tell you what the real purpose of Yahweh is, and how it's carried out, and what He's predestined within the veil. And it's gonna be just like that. And the way that you tie your neck tie, and what you had for supper that ain't got nothing to do with it. Now I'm just giving it to you straight folks so you can get up off this foolishness and get down to business! And that's what you just read there in Ephesians. Read on some more!

READER: having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Yahshua the Messiah. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now you've got it right there! He's predestined us to the adoption of children by Yahshua the Messiah! THAT DON'T HAVE A THING TO DO WITH YOU AS TO HOW YOU PART YOUR HAIR, OR HOW YOU WALK OUT IN THE STREET! That's stupid! Why don't you argue about something, or debate about something that's worthwhile instead of a lot of folly and foolishness, and stupidity? And then listen, we've also read over here in Acts of Apostles... Are you all listening to what I'm saying? We read over there in the Acts of Apostles that when they didn't know, when they didn't know, the times of that ignorance Yahweh just winked at; He passed it on up. Now if you would of had your, what you're talking about being predestinated, you wouldn't have been here tonight, cause He'd done bumped you off long time ago. And I'm mighty afraid some of you are still in stupidity and ignorance and wanna argue around about it. But look, I don't want you to overlook this. I don't want you to overlook this! And I don't want you to think that I think such a thing. YAHWEH KNOWS YOUR UPRISING AND YOUR DOWNSITTING. HE KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU. Now I don't want you to think that He don't, He does! And if He didn't know the limitations of your understanding or comprehension, if He didn't know that, you'd be in a pretty pitiful mess. And when you didn't know Yahweh didn't charge you. You was back there serving Jesus Christ and Lord and all that kind of thing and you didn't know. Yahweh let you by with it cause He knew you didn't know! But you can't get by with it now. How 'bout that? So you just might as well stick around, just might as well, might as well hold what you got cause you can't get by with Jesus Christ no more. Believe it or not, you just can't do it. So you just might as well make up your, make up your mind and go on along with Yahshua the Messiah, and Yahweh Elohim. You just might as well make... Lord, God, and Jehovah and Adonai and none of that won't do. Now you are accountable and charged for what you do. Now listen here, it's Yahweh's responsibility (go back to Joshua). It's Yahweh's responsibility to give you someone. That's His responsibility to give you someone that knows the truth, and put His spirit in him. And it's your indispensable duty to do all that you can.

I don't know whether some of you know it or not, so I just might as well tell you now. This school was established to make us ministers of the Gospel, every last one of you. We want you to qualify, and it takes a profound knowledge to do that. If you don't believe me read the constitution, that mean this, men and women. That's what the school was established for, and to spread the Gospel all over the world. And that's why I'm concerned now in going back to Los Angeles so that Dr. Dennis Droulard can go to India. We didn't get to make the trip, but India promised to print 5000 books, like our text book here, for $5,000. And we don't wanna take no chance on sending no $5000 over there to India, send him or no vow. We wanna make sure that it's the right kind of a deal. You see what I'm talking about? We wanna send somebody over there with this. Now we could get $5000, we can send him over there and get $5000 worth of books, print it up, and it's cheaper than we can, way cheaper than in America. That is to say, we can send him along, pay his way, and then come out ahead. So then we, that's what we wanna do. We only have 120 books, I think that's what the secretary said. Is that right?

DR. MARY GROSS: um hum

DR. KINLEY: Okay, so we need some more books. Then I wanna tell you something else about this coordination and predestination. Coordination and predestination is one and the same. Now there's another word too you're probably having trouble with, and that's reincarnation. There ain't no such a thing as reincarnation. Now why did you say that? Now listen folks, now listen at what I'm gone tell you, I'm explaining reincarnation. There is nothing that Yahweh isn't in for Him to jump out of and get into something else. Now to reincarnate means that he has been in you before, and now here he comes back into, right in that same person. It just don't work like that. Now what you need to do is look up the definitions of some of these words and find out something about these things, and just don't be gullible and swallow everything that you hear. And now here's something else too, maybe I'd better read that. I think it's the 2nd chapter of 2nd Peter. Oh there's a whole lot of things I’d like to say to you, but I know I can't. I know I can't do that. Peter, or read.

READER: but as there were false prophets among the people. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: even as there shall be. . .

DR. KINLEY: Right here, back here, and all back there, even in the antediluvian age. All right, there's false prophets among the people.

READER: even as there shall be false teachers among the. . . [TAPE ENDS]