Kings: Resurrection on the Third Day

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Lecture given by Dr. Kinley in 1965.

TRANSCRIBED BY BEVERLY ALLEN

DR. KINLEY: As usual you know that I'm always glad to be here. And as Dr Kinley said, my son in the flesh, when he was coming along as a child, many thing I told him to do when he was a child, he didn't want to do it. For example, just like I tell you, and you're a child, (I'm speaking collectively), "You go to school." Sometimes I'd say to him "You wanna go to the meeting?" "No, sir, papa, I don't wanna go to church or school." I'd go over and look at the other boys, "You don't wanna go to school?" "No, sir, papa." And they were just like the rest of the fellows they wanted to play or do something else rather than going to school. But I'm papa, now you’re going to school if you don't have nothing but a boot and a shoe. You're going whether you wanna go or not. A lot of times I took 'em down there right along with me, and the next thing you know they'd be splattered out all over the chair or something there just sound to sleep, snoring. They're snoring and I'm preaching, but he's in school. Get the point? He didn't wanna go to school.

Now I'll tell you what I wanna tell you. I noticed how he labored, and all the rest of these people who gets up here, I know it. Every breath, and every expression that you make, I know it. You might not think I do, but I do, even the slightest vibration of your consciousness up here. Now what I'm talking for and about, at this time (I don't want nobody to be in the dark about it) I am talking for the benefit of the new people that are in this school tonight. Now that's what I'm talking for and about! Now if you think you know what it's all about, as far as I'm concerned you can get up and go home now! If you think you know what it's all about, or if you'd just rather sit here and listen at me... See I told you now that I'm talking for the benefit of the new people. Well somebody say, "Well I ain't new." If you want to you can just go on home. We'll wait till you get done stomping and get out the door. But the new people that are in this class tonight, and want to stay here with me, and I'm telling you I'm not going behind your back, I'm talking for your benefit. And if you're not gonna pay attention to what I'm trying to tell you, you might as well go too. Now I'm not getting smart with nobody, but I'm trying to tell you how important it is for you to study. And what I'm trying to do is to get something over to you. Now if I can succeed in getting over to you what I wanna get over to you now, it would benefit you the rest of your life, and I'm not interested in how long you live. There will be no more changes! There will be no more conversions and nobody, even you, can't tell yourself nothing different! That oughta be pretty good don't you think? That oughta be worthwhile hearing, don't you think so? Somebody say "Oh I believe I heard that before." Naw you didn't. Said "Revern' taught me." He didn't do it. See I've got books at home with the very best theologians and commentators, the brilliant and academically trained students from Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Washington, you name it, I don't care where it is! I got books at home, some of the smartest men, Matthew Henry, Pendleton, Burrs, all that kind of thing. Now that's just all of the information that there is, so you see I know what's in the world. See the results of what is in the world is these splits and cults and whatnot out here, and they don't have no way at all to be reconciled one with another. Now that's political and that is ecclesiastical; it's just no way. Brown and Regan is canvassing hard; they're just dead set to win an election. Now this is a dead stretch too to win. Now with the stuff we use, you can't lose, we're gonna win.

Now I'd like to say this before I get into anything further, because I don't wanna have to much to say. But what I do say I want you to pay 'tention to it. There has been nobody in this school... This school is 35 years old. And we've had real smart theologians in this school, doctors and lawyers, you name it, we've had 'em here. But here's one thing that has never happened, and it never will happen; it hasn't happened yet and it won't happen; it just can't happen: nobody from no where comes to this school and wins an argument. You lose every time. Now here's why you lose. Now that's what I wanna show you. Here's where you lose is because what you don’t see is... Just like this latest Bible, a translated copy of this latest Bible, just off the, just real warm, hot... You and I were setting up there reading it last night, wasn't we? I brought it down here, and I hadn't had it here but about once. We opened it up, you know, we're trying to write on the book, and we opened it up, and it said there, talking about the United Kingdom, or Monastery of Israel. Meaning this, after they come out of here they're not split up in the house of Israel, two tribes here, and ten there make up the twelve, until after the death of Solomon. Now that mean Saul, he was the first king to rule, he ruled 40 years. David was the second, he ruled 40 years. Then come Solomon, he ruled 40 years. Now that 40 years that each one of 'em ruled represented 120 years. In other words, 40 three times is 120. Now I've got to the place, and I'm telling you how to get to it now, where you don't have to wear yourself out like the, theologians do, so-called theologians, Pendleton, Burrs and Matthew Henry, the preachers out here, you don't have to wear yourself out with reading around like that. Now the first thing that Oxford Bible said, that's the latest translation was, that the reign of Solomon, Israel's first king, they did not know how long that it was. Now I’ve been standing round telling you folks it was 40 years, and I don't have to worry with it. Really, I don't have to go through no rigmarole to find out about it, look me up a reference and all that kind of thing trying to find out, see I don't have to worry with that. I know what science is got to say. I'm just wasting my time running round and shaking around like that. Now that's what you've understood. You'd like to learn how to do that, wouldn't you? Would you think so? Now look, here's Israel as a united kingdom, a hundred and twenty years of it, Saul, David, and Solomon. Now I'm gonna find out how long that each one of 'em ruled by looking at something else. And that's gonna save me from fumbling around, and fumbling around. All right now if you will do this, if you'll take, let's say Noah in building the ark, now he was 120 years here. He was a hundred and twenty years in building the ark. Now that so happens to be 3 x 40. Well now that's Noah building the ark, and this is the United Kingdom here with Israel. Well I don't have to fumble around. Someone said, "Let me see how old Moses was when he died up in the mount?" I don't have to worry with that. You just running references and trying to commit to memory, and all, I don't have to worry with that. Moses was 40 years old... Remember now, these three kings governed Israel, now Moses was 40 years old when he slew the Egyptian and run off in the wilderness. And he stayed out there 40 years in the land of Midian, or the wilderness there. He stayed out there 40 years, and so that 40, and this 40, that makes 80, almost. Then God sent him back down into Egypt to bring the children of Israel out by the cloud. And he come out here and he stayed 40 years before he went up in the mountain and died up there. He stayed 40 years up there, now that makes a hundred and twenty. That makes 120 here, 120 there, and 120 there. Now here is Israel as a united kingdom, and here is Moses working with all of 'em. Now then if Moses worked with 'em as all of the 12 tribes, well when they get up here they don't have no king. Well they got to have one! How do you know they got to have a king? Where'd they get the idea from? You see what I'm talking about? I don't have to worry around with all this reading you all are doing and mess it up. Now you got back here Melchisedec and Abraham. Now Melchisedec was king and priest. So Israel where she's got a priest here, she don't have no king. Melchisedec was king and priest of what?

STUDENTS: Salem

DR. KINLEY: Salem. And Salem is the ancient name of Jerusalem. So when she gets here, in order to fulfill this, she's got to have a king; that's where the idea comes from. Well where did Melchisedec get the idea from? That's the way I trace things. See if I can get your story to begin with, I don't worry about the end. Now that's what he's trying to tell you.

Now look, listen at me, do what I'm fixing to tell you to do. I want everybody in the building that's got a Book, to do what I'm fixing to tell you do now. And now this is what I'm fixing to tell you do, I'm fixing to take you from Genesis to Revelations in a few minutes. I know it's time to go home, but I wanna take you from Genesis to Revelations in a few minutes, and make you answer all the questions. How's that? And if you just only knew what you was reading about when you're reading, you wouldn't be having all this trouble and conflict. Now the other fellow that the devil's been out there teaching, now he don't know these esoteric secrets that I'm giving you the keys to. See you can catch him red handed every time.

Now look there Dr. Williams, you take the 12th chapter of Acts of Apostles, and just start at the first verse. Now that's Acts of Apostles. Now somebody say, "Well that's over in the New Testament," naw it isn't. Now somebody get the first chapter of Genesis. Now you watch this trick. Now here's what I'm gonna do; this is what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna put this whole Bible, this whole Book together. And at this time, it's almost time to go now, and you see that I don't have but a very few minutes to get it together like this.

Now I want somebody to take Matthew the 28th chapter, somebody to take Exodus, the 27th Chapter of Exodus. Can you think of any place else you want me to take? Well we haven't got to Revelations yet then, have we? So then we'll try something in Revelations. Cause now here's what we're doing, we're sewing up the whole thing. And what we are doing is what I have been trying to tell you about all the time, WE ARE PROVING THE DIVINE AUTHENTICITY, THE UNERRING ACCURACY, AND THE INFALLIBILITY OF THE BIBLE FROM GENESIS TO REVELATIONS, or from cosmogony to eschatology, that's from start to finish. AND ANYTIME YOU MAKE A MISTAKE, I GOT YOU, but I'm not gonna get up here and crucify everybody every time you make a mistake. Now look, just to cut this thing up a little short cause I don't have time. But I just wanna throw something in here together right quick to let you see how it works.

Now just like Dr. Gross was making this chart here. See this ball; see this ball here… Look at it, you won't know nothing about it if you don't look! That's what we made the charts for. See it's light on one side, and the rod here, and it's dark on this side. Well he didn't have this on this chart here. He just right recently got it on here. And then after he got it on there, then he left the verse off, it ain't got it on there yet. Now when I made these charts I didn't want no, all that great 40' long chart I didn't want no scripture on it. See it's just no sense in blundering around over the Bible. And if what's in that Book, from Genesis to Revelation isn't on here, the Book ain't no good, it's just like any other fantastic tale of ideology.

Now look, so I can show right quick. Now some of you got Genesis, some of you got Exodus, some of you got Matthews... I could, but I don't have time, I could go into Daniel the 9th chapter. You want to you could look at it. Now what I'm gonna do, this is what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna make each one of these chapters that I got here, don't make no difference where it is, I'm gonna make one read just like the other, and show you that one is the result of the other. Now Moses, down here in the, these first 5 books that you call the law, he better not say something out of harmony with what's in that prophecy. Why? Because it's the same God that's giving the law that's giving the prophecy. Matthew better not have no different testimony than Moses down there in Genesis or anywhere else you wanna mention; it better not be no different testimony. Are you following what I'm trying to reason? Now Revelations, it better not be no different than Genesis, cause if it do, you see I'm gonna get you. And here's one thing you can't do. You can't get up here in this pulpit and fool this dean. You can kid the folks, and kid yourself, but you're not fooling me. All you have to do is just start your mouth to running, and I got your number. Now I'm not gonna hurt your feeling, and insult you, but I see you don't know. Now what I oughta do, and if I was discharging my duty, if I see you don't know, I don't wanna kick you in the teeth cause you don't know. I wanna get you close enough to me so you could see, so you can know, that's my job.

Now you got the first chapter of Genesis. Now you got the 3rd day there, in the first chapter of Genesis. I just want what happened on the 3rd day because I don't have time to go through the whole thing. Now you got Genesis, now I want Exodus to go right along with it. And we could stop over there and get Daniel, Isaiah, get anything you wanna get. Now look, I wanna do this quick. Now read about the 3rd day in Genesis there.

READER: And God said, let the waters under the heavens be gathered together unto one place and let the dry land appear, and it was so. And God called he dry land earth, and the gathering together of the waters called He seas, and God saw that it was good. And God said let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after it's kind, whose seed is in itself upon the earth, and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass and the herb yielding seed after it's kind, and the tree yielding fruit whose seed was in itself, after it's kind, and Elohim saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning was the 3rd day.

DR. KINLEY: See what happened? Now he's reading in Genesis, Exodus has to read just like that. Now the children of Israel, God told Moses to tell Pharaoh to let His people go 3 days journey in the wilderness that they might serve Him. Now it said the evening and the morning, let them go 3 days into the wilderness that they might worship Him. That’s a 3 days journey, that's from Rameses to the Red Sea, a 3 days journey. Now on the 3rd day there in Genesis, you got God moving the waters off the face of the earth and letting the dry land appear. Now just to add this to your information. Now that's the same thing you got on the first day, same thing you got on the 2nd day, same thing you got on the 3rd day, same thing you got on the 4th day, same thing you got on the 5th day, same thing you got on the 6th day, operation that never cease to be. Now the evening and the morning, He divided the evening and morning. And that cloud that Moses was in, it was a pillar of fire by night, and cloud by day. Now you see what happened on the 3rd day? See I could have told you just stop by the 10th chapter of 1st Corinthians... Maybe some of you are putting this on paper, so then put it on paper. Now kinda read it when you go home. Now the 10th chapter of 1st Corinthians says "Moreover brethren, I would not that you should be ignorant how all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the Red Sea, and was baptized in the cloud and in the sea..." Now you say that's over in the New Testament, and that's back here where I told you to read at in Exodus. That's where Paul is getting this at. He couldn't have said what he said over there unless it had been that way back here. So now we got Corinthians, we got the first chapter of Genesis on the 3rd day, we got Israel coming up out of here on the 3rd day, the evening and morning... Although I'm reading in Genesis, I'm reading in Exodus. I'll read over here in Daniel 9:24, and all. "Seventy weeks is determined upon the holy city," or 490 years, "And to know therefore that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem again unto the Messiah shall be..." Then you got there in Daniel, (listen at me boy, you heard me) the 2300 days, the 2300 days... Where is it at there doc? Read it, the 2300 days there in Daniel. Somebody read it.

READER: 8:14 DR. KINLEY: huh? READER: 8:14. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now look, I'm explaining the Bible, and I'm showing you how to do it. I'm just ripping around in it... "Unto two thousand and three hundred days, and then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." Now that's on the 3rd day. One day with the Lord is as a thousand years... See I could have stopped by Psalms, or David, and I could have went over here in Peter the 3rd... I'm just putting the whole Book up together anywhere I want to, and see you couldn't stop me with an atomic bomb or a hydrogen bomb. And there ain't no need of you trying to get up here and do no arguing, cause I'll beat you down from Genesis to Revelations in this Book, cause I know what's got to be in it. Now this 3rd day, this 3rd day that you just read in Genesis, (you know you were over in Genesis), now also in Exodus you've got this 3rd day he comes up here to the Red Sea. Now here's Moses... That's the 11th chapter of Revelations, verse 1. You see how I'm reading in first one place... And when I'm reading here, I'm also reading over yonder. Now when Moses got up here to the Red Sea, he had mountains on either side of him. This is the 14th chapter of Exodus. It's the 14th chapter of Exodus where he got up here to the Red Sea. The 16th, 19th, and 20th, that's from the 14th chapter, the 16th through the 20th verse. He raised up his rod over the sea and the sea parted. That's on the 3rd day. That's in Exodus, and the sea parted. Now John out here on the Isle of Patmos, he's looking right down at it, in the 11th chapter, looking right at it, looking right at it! And the same angel that was in that cloud that spoke with Moses there to raise up the rod there over the sea. Now look what happened. Look what happened. He's here on the 3rd day, and he raised up his rod, and the sea parted. Now the cloud that was leading 'em, it went from before 'em and it stood between 'em. Now look right up at me. The cloud that went forth, it stood between Pharaoh and the children of Israel. And when Moses raised up that rod over the Red Sea, that Red Sea parted, and the cloud it stood between Moses and the children of Israel. And the cloud was as pitched black darkness; Pharaoh couldn't budge or fudge. And on the other side of the cloud it was light, and Israel went right down through the Red Sea. Now that's Exodus. Well now I got to read the same, see I can't have no difference. I'm in another book now, and what I'm doing, I'm putting your Bible together. Now here in Matthew, on the 3rd day when Messiah was buried in Joseph's new tomb, just like they're buried in there, He's dead, buried, in Joseph's new tomb. Now you see this light and darkness here? Now look up, look up at me! Look up at me, cause you'll never understand, you'll never understand it unless you pay attention to it! Now when Messiah raised from the dead, it said in the 28th chapter of Matthew, it said those women went to the tomb as it begin to dawn toward the first day of the week. As it begin... Then this blackness here, and light there, as it begin to dawn, they went through the Red Sea on the 3rd day. On the 3rd day as the sun begin to rise in the horizon, to make the darkness depart, the light of the world and the Son rose together. Now look, it went down that way. That's the reason why God couldn't drive Adam out of the Garden of Eden until the cool of the day. And He's driving him out in outer darkness. Now then when Messiah's hanging out on the cross it's dark over the face of the earth from the 6th to the 9th hour. If He ever hopes to get this fulfilled back here, so then He waits till the cool of the day to drive Him out into outer darkness. Now this whole, everything there is down here is got to be in darkness. Now I don’t care how, just fix it your way to suit yourself, and keep your foot out that… Don’t you try to fool me! Don't start that stuff cause I got your number. Now as it begin to dawn toward the next day, and the sun is rising.... You see the sun was going down with Him hanging on the cross. Blood is draining out of that body. That man is dying out there on the cross, and it turned dark from the 6th to the 9th hour. He was the Son of God, and the sun in the sky reflects that. This sun here had to come down, and the whole universe functions and operates with it. Then if He's coming down out here, Jesus, when He raised from the dead, it's got to begin to dawn here. You said the evening and the morning it begins to it begins to dawn. That's what you read over there in Genesis. You read here in Exodus... I didn't have you to read it, but you can put it down and read it when you get home.

Now you got over there in Daniel, he better not come up with nothing no different. Now there you are in Matthew, now then here we are over in the Acts of Apostles, and told you the 12th chapter of Acts of Apostles, didn't I? Just read the first verse.

READER: Now about that time. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now about that time, what time are you talking about, and just what are you talking about? You see, now that's the folks when they start to read a Bible, "Now about that time." They don't know what time it was. They don't know one confetchet thing about it, and reading too out of the Bible. You can't say he ain't reading out the Bible, but he don't know nothing about what he’s reading. Now about that time, read.

READER: Herod the king stretched forth his hand. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: to vex certain of the church. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and he killed James the brother of John. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: with a sword. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and because he saw it pleased the Jews. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: he proceeded to take Peter also. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: Then were the days of unleavened bread. . .

DR. KINLEY: Those were the days of unleavened bread. In other words, these are the days of unleavened bread. That lamb had to die. James had to die. And they took Peter and put him into prison just like they imprisoned Him in the tomb, just like Israel was imprisoned in there, about that time, which is the same time down here in Acts of Apostles. And that time was just about these days of unleavened bread which is called the Passover. How far is it from that? Ten years. The flood was upon the face of the earth one year and ten days, and ten years after this they said the disciples come and stole Him away, and ten years after that He repeated it. Now you said His disciple come and stole Him away. Who come and stole Peter away? Same angel that did this rolled the stone away as it begin to dawn toward the first day. He's right down there in prison, and Peter's buckled down between the soldiers, quadrate of soldiers, down there in his tomb just like them soldiers were standing around at that tomb. Same angel, ten years, ten is concrete. Went in smote Peter on the side. What are you doing hitting him on the side? Can't you see He was hit in the side out here on the cross. What's the matter with you? Are you nuts? Don't you see that lamb was slain down there, hit in the side. Don't you see that God took Eve from Adam's side? What's the matter can't you see? Reading all in Genesis, or reading all around in the Bible, see you couldn't stop me with an atomic bomb. And I know what you're reading, and you can't fool me about it. And when that angel smote him on the side, his chains fell off. You got it over there on that chart. And Peter went on out the 3rd ward onto the second ward, and the gate just simply opened on its own accord. He didn't have to be bothered with rolling the stone away. Moses didn't have to try to push the waters back, or separate 'em, raised that rod up and on the 3rd day. Now then from the time he took Peter and James that was a day. That one day. Put him in prison, and the Sabbath day he had to wait till that was past, and on the 3rd day, which was a Monday morning, which as the same identical time that He did here, identical. He laid in the grave, Joseph's new tomb, over the Sabbath. Do you see that?

Now look here, here's the 11th Chapter of Revelations. Now you see we're watching this rod here, we're watching that tomb down here at this ------, we're watching down at the Red Sea, we're watching this event with this angel and that sword. All up in Kings, Chronicles, anywhere I wanna go. I tell you, you can't do nothing with me! I'm the champion of the world, how you gone do that? All right now, the first chapter of Revelations, read the first verse.

READER: And there was given me a reed liken to a rod. . .

DR. KINLEY: Well what? Don't you see Moses lifted up his rod over the Red Sea here? This is the outer court, which correlates and corresponds to the Red Sea and the water there. See any anyway you wanna fix it. Now He have to give him a reed like unto a rod. And He said, "Rise and measure the temple and them that worship therein." You see they done come up through here and now they going though here, but now the court which is without, leave out, cause it's given to Pharaoh and them to trod under foot. And you said 3 days, one day for a year in prophetic time. That's what you said. That's what you say all along there. This is the Lord that’s crucified. This 3 1/2 years of His ministry is 1260 years, or 40 and 2 months. Then take account of the time with the Lord, with Him that day that He is crucified, that's a thousand years. Laying in Joseph's new tomb, that's another thousand. And very early in the morning, that's your 2300 day days that you're reading about over here in Daniel. Now there was given unto me a reed liken unto a rod saying rise and measure the temple, and them that worship therein, and the court which is without, leave out, for it is given unto the Gentles to tread under foot. And they tread the holy city forty and two months or 1260 years, or 3 1/2 years in prophetic time. . . [SIDE TWO]... Now the reason why he give him that rod was to measure the temple. And this is the migratory pattern, and this is the outer court, and they was in here just like this, measuring. But the outer court leave out, because you see that's the veil of the Red Sea, but leave it out. That's the 11th chapter and the first verse. Now get the 11th chapter and the 8th verse.

READER: And their dead bodies shall lie in the streets. . .

DR. KINLEY: When that death angel flew over Egypt here their dead bodies, king Pharaoh and all the rest of 'em, their dead bodies lied in the streets of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt. You heard me! Where also our Lord was crucified. So when they offered up that lamb, it turned dark down there, and when they offered up the Lamb of God it turned dark down here. They raised up this rod... And then he went over there and talked about that rod was given to that child that was born of that woman, and He shall rule all nations with a rod of iron. See folks I know my stuff. I know it in all nature. I'll take you apart, take anybody apart. Take the beans, corn, the peas, the planets, you, atoms, the molecules, just take anybody apart! See I'm suppose to be the Book myself! I AM THE REVEALER OF SECRETS INCARNATED IN THIS THING. You can't fool me! Read where you will if the translator makes a mistake I got him dead by the neck. Now you can do that same thing. It's nobody in here but what can't do that same thing. It's nobody in here but what can't do that same thing. Not that there isn't anybody in here.... I said I'm talking to the new people. You can do the same thing. And everyone of these lying bastards... Now the reason why I said, the reason why... I should have put this to it, old bastards, now that's what I should have said. Now what did I say that for? Now Paul tells you in the first chapter of Hebrews, "Wherefore God chasteneth every son whom He receiveth." Now if I take this Book and chastise and correct you with all this junk and mess and stuff that you've been teaching around here, or beat you to death with it, chastening you, there's nothing pleasant about it at all. You setting up here, you up here just call yourself preaching up here, and you done made an ass out of yourself in front of these people. Now I get up here and beat you to death and prove to you, you don't know what you're talking about, now that don't seem so pleasant. But every son whom He receives He chastises and corrects. Now if you can't be corrected by the scriptures then you're a bastard and not a son. That's what Satan wouldn't do back here, all the way through, He wouldn't be corrected so he's a bastard. And that's that old...look, reason why I call him old, over there in the scripture there, and when you get over here in the 13th chapter of Revelations, you find that old serpent that was cast out back here. You find that in the 12th chapter. Now you got them coming up out of Egypt. You got it in the 11th chapter where also our Lord was crucified lying in the city, and they laid there for 3 days. And we just talked about what happened in Genesis the 3rd day. We talked about what happened in Matthew the 3rd day, we talked about what happened in Daniel the 3rd day, you talking about what happened over here in the 12th chapter of Exodus, the 3rd day. And I'm just walking on through that Book putting Genesis, just putting the whole thing together. Now when we go into you, you're pneuma, psyche, and soma, when you put it together, soul, body, and spirit. Go is matter, the atom that's a proton, neutron, electron. And down at ------- college they said "I don't know whether I wanna agree with you or not, you said that the Atom was threefold. There's some more parts there that science has just right recently discovered, the megatons, and the positrons." I said well look, I wasn't talking about the furniture of the tabernacle. I said this outer court I didn't describe what was in the outer court. And I said here in the holy place, I'm not talking about the furnishing in the holy place; I know that's in there. Then when you get in here, up in here, I said I wasn't talking about that, I was just talking about the outer court, I didn't say what was in it. I said this holy place, I didn't say what was in it. Then I said up here, I didn't say what was in it. Look, I found out about the positrons, and megatons and all before science found out anything about it. Yeah I know that the table of shewbread and these vessels is in there. There's furnishing in it, just like you got a heart, and you got lungs, and you got kidneys and first one thing and another in your body. I could just talk about you being threefold, and how you're made up - head cavity, cranial cavity, chest cavity, and an abdominal cavity. If I wanna go into it, I'd go into the brain, and then I'd go into the lungs, and the heart, and I'd go on down into the intestines and so forth and so on, if I'm gonna get the furnishing and all that's in there. But you see when I was talking about, I wasn't talking about what all's in there. So then if you wanna crack up an atom, then we'll commence to cracking her up. You get it? [Doc Laughs] Oh buddy, it's wonderful! Now you talking about somebody being sure enough happy, not all tightened up in my carnal mind, but I'm happy. I know what the truth is, and you can't fool me. And I'm not gonna fall down and get discourage with the people. Every time I look at you, I just so as to speak, I groan within myself in the spirit, and hope and trust that I can get Wallace to see, I can get some new person to see. See like I'm putting that, just like you see me putting that together.

Then we read over there about... I'll say this and we'll go home. We read over there in Exodus about the tabernacle, Moses coming down off the mountain building the tabernacle. You read there in Exodus… And I've had these people to come to school saying, "Look here, we ain't living under the Old Covenant! I want you to read in the New Testament; we living under the New Testament now!" And look at the congregation too, if as though to say, "I'm telling him something, ain’t I?" He's around there tightened up in himself, “I'm telling him something; I'll show your old dean up." You see when he read over there in the New Testament, we're not living under that. And then you get over here in the 21st chapter of Revelations and the same thing you read over here in Exodus. The 21st chapter said "And I John saw the holy city new Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven prepared as a bride adorned for her husband, and I heard a voice out of heaven saying, behold the tabernacle of God is with men." Now the first heaven and the first earth was passed away. And that idiot hasn't got sense enough to see that this first heaven and this first earth is passed away. This is one, two, three, the third heaven, the first heaven and the first earth is passed away. And now he's gone on down and he said, "There's no more sea." And then he said "I John saw the holy city New Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven prepared as a bride adorned for her husband." Now you're way over here in Revelations, and that stupid blundering idiot standing up telling me “Why don't you read in the New Testament?” As if to say "Folks I made a fool out of your pastor," when I'm reading that over there in Exodus. Well I have to read over here in Revelations. Now then after you get there, now here's the 22nd chapter of Revelations. Now you see how we got up to this 3rd day? Now we got to follow it in here. Now the River Jordan, on the 3rd day there, just like you read about the 3rd day here, 3rd day, just any of them stories, it just don't make no difference about it. You standing all round trying to find out how many stories the ark has, I don't have to worry with that. I don't have to worry with it. "I, uh, I got, uh give me a reference, let me see how many scriptures you got over there." Somebody say, "Well how many doors, how many windows was it?" I don't have to worry with that. I don't have to worry with it! I don't have to look it up! Can I get smart? SEE I ORDERED THE DOOR TO PUT IN , AND THE WINDOW TO PUT IN THE ARK, I don't have to look it up. I'm getting smart now. I MEAN THIS, THAT THE REAL GENUINE GOD OF THIS STELLAR UNIVERSE IS INCARNATED IN THIS PHYSICAL BODY. I DON'T HAVE NO ADVANTAGE OF YOU AT ALL, SO I CAN'T BOAST NO NUMERICAL SUPERIORITY OVER YOU. I AM TELLING YOU THAT IF I CAN GET IT OVER TO YOU, YOU CAN DO THE SAME THING. That's the reason why I said I was talking to the babies in here. And nare nother [no other] hypocrite, nare nother [no other] lying preacher, he just might as well cut that stuff out; he just might as well come on clean. You got a dead, dead dog. You see the point? And you got it from Genesis to Revelations. Close up the Book, and here you got the whole chart out here, heaven and earth to go by, including him. It's time to go home.

Now I don't know... Are there any new people here? Would you do me the courtesy of standing up please? Stand up; don't be ashamed. I don't wanna embarrass nobody. Now here's what I'm saying to you. Did you get anything out... I told you I was teaching for your benefit. I did not go behind your back, I told you to your face! Now did I help you? Did you see through anything at all that I was talking about?

MAN: I could see a little. . . DR. KINLEY: huh? MAN: I could see a little, and I haven't. . .

DR. KINLEY: That's right. If you had said "Yeah I see the whole thing," I would tell you that I know you're lying. Did you catch on to anything at all?

ANOTHER PERSON: Yes, sir.

DR. KINLEY: In other words IT’S NOTHING ELSE BUT CORRELATIONS, ONE THING RELATED TO THE OTHER, that's all. Now that's what I'm teaching.

Now I have, when we just had a half a dozen of people, preached just as hard to that half of dozen or so of people, and come out of there wringing wet with sweat trying to make my brethren see, Dr. Gross and them hand full of people. And I told them when I left them to go to Cincinnati, "Look..." And I'll tell you to your teeth; I defy you to your very teeth! I'm not asking you your name or where you come from, cause I'm not bothered with it. I defy you to your teeth Bishop, Carl Gross, you can't depart from what I teach you! YOU CAN’T DO IT! Now you might misunderstand me....

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