Atrocities in the World

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Lecture given by Dr. Kinley on January 17, 1969.

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TRANSCRIBED BY BEVERLY ALLEN

PROOFREAD BY SYRACUSE, NY CLASS AND SPRINGFIELD OHIO CLASS


DR. KINLEY: . . .for your undivided attention, listen attentively to what he had to say, and weigh the matter, not only by your conscience but by what was said tonight. And I always put it like this, it's true that more than likely, even though we try hard, we're going to say some things that may not be understood by the babes. And yet brethren we are engaged in trying to write this book, rewrite the book. I'm very much interested in it. And this is part of the draft that Dr. Harris did there. And it looks real nice, and it is good. Now that's an explanation on the --------. But I doubt seriously whether everybody irrespective and regardless to who writes or who says what, I'm not gonna get a script that is a complete run at this time.

Now I brought all that up because in San Diego there is a organization... Dr. Dennis gave me this book, uh, script of paper, it comes from what you call "Truth Seekers." And they have spoke very irrelevant of the Bible. They are Christians, and they point to what they call fallacies, and falsehoods, in the Bible. Then they go back and they wanna run the character of all the patriarchs down. Say "Look what he did, and Abraham, and look what Issac done, look what Jacob done. And look at what God, as you say, done when He passed over Egypt and slew all those people. What for?" And they speak about the atrocities and the murders and all. And then they, uh, speaking of the birth of the Messiah being conceived by the Holy Spirit, they say, "Can you imagine the Pope becoming the father of a baby by a virgin? Can you imagine that?" Then they went on and they said, "That Messiah or Jesus He promised to return, (and they point to Matthew 16:28) during the life time of his peers of that day He promised to return, and he didn't do it." Now I'm saying all these things to kinda bring you up-to-date on some things and try to show you something. Now they didn't look at what the Apostle Paul or the rest of 'em said about, well maybe I'd better let you read it, (Romans 5:14).

READER: Nevertheless. . . DR. KINLEY: Now, now you listen. See "Nevertheless" READER: death reigned from Adam to Moses. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) Read. READER: even over them that had not sinned. . .

DR. KINLEY: Even over them that was not back there in the garden, they wasn't even yet born, and through the generations all coming down. "Even over them that had not sinned. Death reigned from Adam to Moses after the similitude of Adams transgression." Now listen folks, that involved everybody, Abraham, Issac and Jacob and everybody else! And God did not choose them because they were such great men of personal divine integrity, He never done it. All of ‘em was sinners! He didn't have no choice, no other choice other than to get... and everyone he got was a sinner. Now you see they don't see that. They never thought nothing about it. Noah and all the rest of 'em, and you to, without the Holy Spirit... They don't know, they don't know what's going on. "Now why would God slay innocent people down here in Egypt?... the absurdity of such a thing. They haven't done anything," so he says. Now people write, physical critics write and point out such things as that, and say "Your faith is predicated upon such contaminated and polluted characters of Abraham, Issac and Jacob and whatnot, and they're no moral examples for you to follow after." And then they point out certain things that they did in their lives, and just throw 'em off on the Bible. Now then they say human sacrifices, such as they have back, uh some of 'em back there under the dispensation of the law were offering up men and women and all those different kinds of things, sacrificing to the god of their imagination human sacrifices. And finally they got on down to the place where they cruci.., uh offered Him up as a human sacrifice. "What's the sense in Him dying out there to restore a world back, a human sacrifice?... and a God that would demand such." Then on top of that, and I want you to read it to, because they're not the only ones that said it. They look for Jesus to come back, (Matt.16:28). They look for Him to come back during their lifetime. They say that He predicted that He would come back, and He didn't come, so they're saying that He's a liar, and His prediction failed. Read the verse.

READER: Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see a vision of the Son of. . .

DR. KINLEY: No, um um, read it out of your King James Version.

READER: Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the Son of man coming in His kingdom. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now you see that? They said "Now there be some standing here that shall not taste of death until they see the Son of man coming in His kingdom." That meant that He's predicted and promised to return during the lifetime of them that were standing there at that time. Now He didn't, and that's not true, and that's not what He said. That's the inco... Now you see all these misinterpretations of what is correctly right. Now you read that out of the King James Version. Who read it? Dr. Gross read it. Dr. Gross read it. Now I want you to go back and read what properly should have been in the Scripture that was left out.

READER: Verily I say unto you, DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: there be some standing here DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: which shall not taste of death DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: till they see a vision R. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: of the Son of man's coming kingdom. . . DR. KINLEY: of the Son of man coming in His Kingdom READER: in glory. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now that's not going that's coming. He was already there, and there was the disciples around Him. Now He's telling 'em that there shall be some standing here that won't die until they see, (now that's where they missed the boat at), until they see a vision of the Son of Man coming in His Kingdom. Now look, now here's the vision. You see it right here. Read on down now, that was the 16th chapter, now read right down in the 17th chapter and here they'll see the vision. All right, read.

READER: And after 6 days. . . DR. KINLEY: After six days after READER: Yahshua taketh Peter, James and John. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: his brother. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and bringeth them up into a high mountain. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and was transfigured before them. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and His face did shine as the sun. . . DR. KINLEY: and His face did shine READER: and His raiment was as white as the light. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and behold there appeared unto Moses. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and Elijah. . . DR. KINLEY: appeared unto them Moses and Elijah READER: talking with Him. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: then answered Peter. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and said unto Yahshua. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: Sire, it is good for us to be here. . . DR. KINLEY: It's good to be here READER: if thou will let us make here three tabernacles. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now you see that? Now you see what he said? Now I wanna get right after that. Now you listen at me and pay 'tention too, so that you can see it. Now even if that was not written... Get the point? Even if it just wasn't written, He would have to do this in order to fulfill this over here. And these that come up out of Egypt, they that was called up there, they had to... they didn't die until after they had seen the vision. Now if He's gonna fulfill it, if that's a vision, then if He's gonna fulfill it, then these can't die until they've seen the vision of Him coming. Now I didn't say "going", said "coming" in His Kingdom. Now why appear Moses and Elijah? Moses was up here wasn't he? Right? Then he's got to appear over here. If he doesn't appear over here, then he wasn't over there. Now the way we do down here in this school, see we know what we are talking about in the first place! And we don't need what you call the New Testament: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, the Acts of Apostles and the epistles. You know we can preach the gospel without it cause we know what's got to happen! We know what He was doing when He was here. We know what time He was due and what He had to do when He got here.

Now all this murder you're talking about let me touch that up again. Well now you see He was really a lamb slain before the foundation of the world. And He did not intend for Adam to go on, and man to go on through here like this perpetually, and eternally so, He didn't intend for to do that. Now listen, you yourself, even me as dumb as I am, I would at least have sense enough to know that if I didn't want a man to touch a thing, as dumb as I am, I wouldn't have never put the tree down there in the garden if I... You run to the Drugstore and get some prescriptions down there, and they got ------, penicillin and lactate, or something another like that. Those are poisons! Ain't that right Dr. Harris? And you've got sense enough to set the bottle up. And if you don't have sense enough to set the bottle up out the reach of the kids... it'll tell you on the bottle "Put it up out of the reach of the kids!" See, what you take me for? Don't be trying to make no fool out of God.

Now there's always somebody come along talking about "God is dead!" They ain't never said nothing about the Devil dying. And if all these atrocities and murders and everything had stopped, and all these bad things, stealing and everything, if it stopped then you wouldn't have no evidence of the Devil being around! How 'bout that? That's something to think about, wouldn't you say? Yes indeed. There will come a time when you cut that stuff out, the Devil I'm talking about, there'll come a time. But now, you've got to know. You've got to know something about what the purpose is. And you've got to, you've got to realize... Just like a lot of the holiness preachers, to show you how slick and sly that is. Now they say, "You mustn't drink no whiskey! You mustn't chew no tobacco. You must not smoke no cigarettes. You must not run around after women," as you call it. And they got a system of morals, that code or system of it. Now then when you stop all that, here's what they call cleaned up, and then you're saved, mind you, without the Holy Spirit, you done all that yourself. As Isaiah said, "Put away" (to Israel), "Put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes saith the Lord." See, and they go back there and bang on that one too, say "Put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes, saith the Lord." Then after you get it put away, "then you come up here and reason with me." Now they bringing that on over here, and they're telling you you've got to clean up! Say, you got to quit all these things if you want the Holy Ghost. Well now look, I want to show you something. Now this man back here in the garden, Adam, now he didn't have no whiskey gins back there. He didn't have no brown mule or ----- patch chewing tobacco, and there wasn't but one woman for him to run around after. I'm just trying to give it to you so you could see the mess we've made out of this being saved. He wasn't smoking no cigarette, and yet he got in trouble. But now the Devil don't know nothing else to do but to tell you to do all these things and clean up, see.

Now then you're affected with all kinds of diseases. And being afflicted with diseases... And look I wanna let you know, everybody in here and out yonder too, I make you this promise, depended upon what is written. I don't care what is the matter with you, it really doesn't make any difference, there's nothing there that the Boss can't master. And look, it is not human healing, it wasn't that from the beginning. It's life, eternal life and immortality, that we're looking for. And everybody that will accept Him as the Saviour of the world, according to the way He was offered up, and according to Scripture, I make you this promise: even though your physical body was laid in the cemetery, it's still not to late. And all them, every last one of 'em, have to undergo a change, everybody. You just thought, you just, you just thought... You ain't going in Rip! Now listen, I don't care how sanctified and how sanctimonious you are, how pure and undefiled you are, you're just not going, that's all. How, how am I doing? Am I doing all right? Because that was not His purpose! And everybody, all... Now I told you the other night that there would be some living walking around here at the revelation of Yahshua the Messiah. And it don't make no difference, they'll all have to be changed from a mortal or a corruptible, or from a physical to a spiritual body or heavenly body. Now everybody has to undergo that change. Now Ecclesiastes 3:20.

READER: All go unto one place. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: all are of the dust. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and all turn to dust again. . .

DR. KINLEY: All right back to where you come from. That's what the undertaker and the mortician say when they take you out there to the cemetery. They repeat what the Boss said there, see you're going back. Now he's serious, they say that science is the answer, and evolution is the answer to mankind. Well why don't they get death stopped. They're always... they all go unto one place, preacher, teacher, deacon, sanctified, holy, unholy, man and beast, all of 'em go right on back, or until the Boss come, that is until the Boss is revealed. Now that's clean and clear. As we told you the other night, Paul said there in the 15th chapter of 1st Corinthians, said "Behold I show you a mystery, we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed... We have born the image of the earthly,

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we shall also bear the image of the heavenly." And if it wasn't for, if it wasn't for that it wouldn't be worthwhile, I'd quit tonight. And if somebody said something to me I didn't like I'd mash 'em in the mouth, even if I got licked I'd take up for myself. That's right. Yahshua the Messiah said "To do violence to no man... and the weapons of our warfare they are not carnal, but they are mighty through Yahshua the Messiah." They're mighty. You talk about your hydrogen bomb, comparatively speaking, they're just like fire crackers. Just keep shining your firecrackers besides this fire, and this ------ over here... [Doc's laughing & talking at same time, couple words inaudible]. them bombs just like they dropped over Hiroshima, Nagasaki, they're just, uh that's... This that I'm talking about will make a clean sweep of the whole thing, and you won't have to be worrying around about radio fallout. [Doc & Student Body laughs] I'm telling you the real truth. "The weapons of our warfare they're not carnal, but they are mighty to the pulling down of strong holds..." Somebody been out yonder in this church, and that church, and the other church, strong holds they got. That's right, strong holds. "Bring everything into captivity to the obedience of Yahshua the Messiah." And listen folks, as Paul say, "We don't wrestle against flesh and blood..." Now that's not the wrestle. Somebody say "Well, are you a Protestant?" What they mean is, do you protest the Roman Catholic Church, the church that Christ built? If that was gone be the case Peter would be the first Protestant, cause he certainly did protest! He said "Let all of the house of Israel know this for an assuredly (he protested all the churches), the man you hung out there on the cross, He was Lord and Master of the universe." They said, "Well what shall we do then?" He said "Apologize or repent."

DR. WILLIAMS: everyone of you

DR. KINLEY: Yes, not some of you, but everyone of you. Now before that, before the Day of Pentecost, he's hiding around. When they say, "Ain't you one of 'em?" He said "Naw, no, um um, not me! I'm not one of the boys." But now, today when he's got something there, he's up there, said "Let, let all, (not some of the house of Israel) just let the, let the whole gang know it! And he demand, or in other words, he protested, and demanded that they repent. It's, it's something. Now we're not wrestling against Baptist, and Methodist, and Roman Catholics, and Protestants, that's not what the wrestle is. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness in high places, and against the rulers of darkness of this world; that's that's our wrestle. Wrestling with them demonic spirits that's got you standing around hooked, talking about "I'm a Baptist." "Well I'm not, I'm not no Baptist." Well what are you? "I'm a Roman Catholic." And another over here he says "No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not either one of them." And got these ------ and -----, now that what we're wrestling. And that's what it is that's causing all of the atrocities and murders and things out here.

Now they talk about the war in Viet Nam, trying to find some way to get it stopped. What's the solution to it, and the problem in the Middle East? What's the solution to it? They said "Well, we'll take it up to the UN and settle it." They had the old league of nations back there, and they never got no where with it. Because they don't have, don't have, they don't have nothing to predicate, (listen to what I'm saying) now they don't have anything to predicate, or to base, or to build upon nothing substantial, and you just can't settle it that way. Now there's 20% of them Roman Catholics, and a great percent of them 'em Buddhist, and the other, Communist. Now how in the world is they gone get together? I told you these things before. What is the foundation and the premises upon which they are going to negotiate. A Buddhist is not gonna be... he'll take and pour some oil on himself, and just physical emulations down in the front of the American Ambassadors before he'll go into the Roman Catholic Church. Well how you get some peace? Just don't know what it's all about.

Now friends, let me say this to you in all sincerity. There are many things in the Bible that people wanna criticize and show you, critics. Many things that are written there, just like I just got through explaining where they said that He was coming, and it is even left out of your King James Version. He said that He would show them, uh, there be some standing there that would see a vision of Him coming. They wouldn't die until they saw the vision. Now you see if He's gone fulfill this, they have to see the vision before they die. But now this is what they're talking about, the critics, the physical critics, and they understand everything else just like this, uh, just like they understand this. Now they out here talking about, and saying "That He promised to come back, He's a liar He didn't come." Now those are suppose to be atheists! Well now I don't know if whether you are aware of it or not, I tried to make you aware of it. Those are suppose to be unbelievers, atheists, that don't believe in God, that are saying that science and evolution is the answer to all of man's ills. Now would you, would you think that the Roman Catholics and the Protestant Churches are doing just the same thing that they are doing? Would you, would you believe that? You wouldn't unless somebody showed it to you. Would you allow me to show you that they're doing the same thing? They're calling Him a liar. I mean the Roman Catholics, and the Baptists, and the Methodist, and the Presbyterians, and the Camelites, and all are calling Him a liar just like the atheist are. And they don't understand it no better than the evolutionists, and yet in still they claim they're believing in God. You want me to show you? Now I just showed you one that the so called atheist said, didn't I? All right, now let show you one, let's show you something that the Roman Catholics and the Protestants say. Yes, it's bad. Yes, it's bad. It don't look like it oughta be like that, does it? Alright, suppose you take the doctor, uh, he spoke of water baptism. He spoke of that. We have the charts up here. Now here's Messiah, He went to John. Suppose you read it .

READER: Them cometh Yahshua from Galilee to Jordan unto John to be baptized of Him. . . DR. KINLEY: Now He's coming from Nazareth of Galilee to John to be baptized of Him. READER: but John forbade Him saying. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: I have need to be baptized of thee. . . DR. KINLEY: Said, I have need to be baptized of you. READER: and comest thou to me. . . DR. KINLEY: And you come to me? READER: and Yahshua answering, said . . . DR. KINLEY: Now listen, believe it or not. And Yahshua answered READER: and said unto him. . . DR. KINLEY: Now listen, this is what He said to him. Now He's talking to John, that's just one fellow. Alright. READER: permit it to be so now. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now permit it... You have in your King James Version, "Suffer it to be so now." He says "Permit it to be so now." Why?

READER: for thus it becometh it. . . DR. KINLEY: Now you listen! You listen! "For thus it becometh us" READER: to fulfill. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: all righteousness. . .

DR. KINLEY: All righteousness. Listen, did you get that word? Freddy get that word upon the board somewhere! Now this is where all the errors and the mistakes are. Here's where all the ignorance is. Here's why, here's where Messiah's made a fool out of 'em. Here's where God said He would destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to naught the understanding of the prudence. Here's where He done it at. Now He said to John, "Suffer it to be so now because it becometh us to fulfill." What... say, do you know what fulfill means?

FREDDY: It means to bring to an end. It means promise. DR. KINLEY: That's right. FREDDY: to finish. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) FREDDY: to make an end of the covenant. . . DR. KINLEY: I see. Is that what... is you sure that's what it means? FREDDY: Yes, that's what it was in the dictionary the last time I looked at it. DR. KINLEY: All right then, I see. Now He told... Write down this, write down, John, there. DR. ROBERT HARRIS: Put another L on fulfill.

DR. KINLEY: Now, now you keep your eye on this. Now what I'm going to show you will be nothing different than what I showed you while ago, about them saying there be some of you standing here that shall not taste of death until they see a... now I'm not gonna show you anything any different than that. Now He told John, (that's just one person), now He told John this lie. Now Roman Catholicism and Protestantism says that He don't know what He is talking about, He is instituting! And some of 'em said... they did say it too, we got it on the tape Dr. Harris.

DR. ROBERT HARRIS: That's right!

DR. KINLEY: A woman said down in Cincinnati, said "Jesus was baptized! Now if Jesus was baptized, it's good enough for me. He's settin' up an example!" Now He, He told John what He was doing was fulfilling. Right?

MAN: Right. DR. KINLEY: All right we're fixing to read, the 23rd, uh, the 5th chapter. READER: and seeing the multitude. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now this was also in those atheistic papers that I reading. I started to bring 'em down here. This is what they call the Beatitudes. They saying He was lying up there in that, uh, He was telling lies there. Now the reason why they said it was because they didn't know what He was doing. They didn't understand what He was doing. And I haven't seen none of the organizations that knows yet! Now because what you got right here... Look here, look up here folks. You got right here in your King James Version of the Bible, it is called the Beatitudes! So they don't know no more about it... and why you gonna blame them folks down there? Now He had to have the same text! Now look, if He's gone... He told John this lie, that the folks they say, "He said He come to fulfill." Now that's just one, that's just one fellow. Put a 1 down there. Put this down for 2...that's 2. That's a whole... read it Dr. Harris.

READER: And seeing the multitudes. . . DR. KINLEY: Make sure you're reading out the Bible. READER: he went up into a mountain. . . DR. KINLEY: Now seeing the multitude He went up in the mountain READER: and when He was set. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now just wait a minute. Just, just a minute Doc here. See I oughta come up to that. See I ought not just... I ought not to just skip it. But the reason why I'm skipping over, I, uh, cause I'm trying to get this word in here, and then they ----- a multitude. But now after He was baptized of John He went out there in the wilderness... Perhaps you can see it better from here. He went out... baptized Him, and He went straight way into the wilderness. Now this is preaching the Gospel folks! This is showing you something so you will know what it's all about. Now the question, why did He go in the wilderness of Judea 40 days and 40 nights? Wonder what took ---- -------? He went out there in that wilderness forty days and forty nights. The reason why He did, the children of Israel come out here and was baptized in the Red Sea, and they went in the wilderness and stayed 40 days or 40 years in the wilderness. And if He ever hope to fulfill it, He certainly got to go into the wilderness. And listen, He can't leave out there either, until He has resided that 40 days and... Why? ‘Cause He's fulfilling. Now all you good Baptists, when you get baptized why don't you gone on off somewhere in the wilderness somewhere and hang around 40 days and 40 nights, if He's settin' an example for you? See, we just really don't know what it is all about. Do we Bishop? See alright. He comes back down there at the seashore, and He sees the boys down there fishing. Now let's, let's touch this some more. I don't think, I don't think we ought'a just run off there. I think we ought'a kind'a just touch... must I touch it kind'a as we go?

STUDENT: Yes!

DR. KINLEY: And now while He's out there in the wilderness, said the tempter came, and tested Him, the Devil. I tried to put a pitch fork or something up there so that the folks could see there's a little Devil with a red tail, or something that you could see. Just tried to illustrate things, to illustrate the Devil, the tempter. Now he said to Him, "Now if you be the Son of Yahweh command these stones to be made bread." Now you show me one preacher, I don't want a lot of 'em, that know those stones he was talking about. See they don't, they don't follow through on nothing! Now look, here's what the, here's what they, here's what it is. Now you see when Israel went through the River Jordan, I mean when Israel went through the River Jordan up here, look they took 12 stones out of the divided waters of the River Jordan, and they put 'em up without any chisel or anything on 'em. Joshua told 'em to do that, and mark the spot where they crossed the River Jordan with them stones. And that was out there in the wilderness of Judea. And if your children ask you anything about it, you tell them...Ain’t that what’s said? And Revern' ain't, I ain't never heard no preacher say nothing about it! See, he's just reading, "The Devil said if you be the Son of God, command these stones to be made bread." And he don't know a thing about it. And then you read on that Jesus said, "Yahweh is able to make of these stones children of Abraham." And there were 12 stones that they took out of there representing the 12 tribes of Israel. I ain't heard nobody say nothing about it. Have you doctor?

DR. WILLIAMS: Naw, they didn't . . .

DR. KINLEY: See, you're a well read theologian, you too Dr. Gross. And you've been around all the churches, just about. You just about made your rounds in all of 'em. They ain't never said nothing about it. But you see he's reading down there. Now then another thing that they say. They say that he carried Him away, they sat Him on a pinnacle of the temple. He said "If you be the Son of God cast thyself down from here, because it is written He shall give His angels charge concerning thee, and in their hand shall they bear the up, lest at any time thy bash thy foot against a stone." Now look, get this. Now you, could just imagine the Devil carrying Him and sittin' Him upon the pinnacle of the temple? Just taking Him and conveying Him some place else in the temple, and set Him upon there, and said "Now if you be the Son cast yourself down." Naw, it ain't like that, He never even left the wilderness. [Laughs] Now the Devil said "Now if you be the Son of God..." Now the same Devil, incarnated in that man that was cuttin' them stones up there, up there in the tomb, said "We know who you are, thou Yahshua of Nazareth, or Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of God." He said, "Shut your mouth and get out of there." [Laughs] See, He knew, He knew all the time. You stop and watch what you're doing when you're reading this Bible. And you have to go back here, that's the reason why we told you, you always have to come back to the law, the first five book, and the, the law and the prophets, to see what's done.

Now since I got to that, I think I ought to bring in something else that they say, the critics down there in San Diego. In fact I may bring it to school some time and l'll show you. They say that there is two version of the creation, and that Moses didn't write it. Ain't that what's, ain't that what they say about it Doc? And Moses didn't write it. And they have the Babylonian hypothesis, or a theory, that was interpolated or put in the Bible after they were carried away to captive to Babylon, which is the Babylonian concept. Now here's what you've learned in this school. Now here's what you've learned in this school. I want you to look, see, I want you to see, (I have, I have one of these). I want you to look and see... In your Bible, I want you to get the 24th chapter of Exodus and verse 1. Now that's one thing we're gonna tell you about is that verse 1&2, we're gone, gonna tell you. Now you read.

READER: And He said unto Moses. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: come up unto Yahweh. . . DR. KINLEY: Said, come up unto Yahweh READER: thou, DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: Aaron, Nadab and Abihu DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and seventy of the elders of Israel. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and worship ye afar off. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and Moses alone

DR. KINLEY: Well, whupp! That was why they built a ledge on this mountain. You can go and check it out in Arabia if you're not satisfied. See every little technical thing we got to have it just right. "And worship ye afar off..." All right, read the next verse.

READER: and Moses alone. . . DR. KINLEY: And Moses, (listen here), by his self! Don't want nobody but him and him alone! What?

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READER: but they shall not come nigh. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: neither shall the people go up with them. . .

DR. KINLEY: Neither... now him by himself. Now skip on down there and show where Moses and Joshua went up there. And it's right in the same chapter.

READER: And Moses rose up. . . DR. KINLEY: What verse are you reading? READER: 13th verse DR. KINLEY: 13th, all right READER: And Moses rose up. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and his minister, Joshua. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and Moses went up into the mount of Elohim. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and he said unto the elders. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: tarry ye here. . . DR. KINLEY: Now you wait here! READER: for us DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: until we come again unto you. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and behold Aaron. . .

DR. KINLEY: until We come again unto you. I ain't gone stop to go into that mystery at all. I just ain't gone do it, not tonight. But what I'm struggling to show you is one thing. I'm showing you how that they don't have no idea at all, no concep... And look, you're not going down to the library and get no books, because it's just not in the library! And if you get it, you're gonna come to, what's this, 1040 So. Grand?

STUDENT: Yeah

DR. KINLEY: And you're not gonna get it no where else! How you like that? Said, "You little nasty, stinking, good for nothing, little black nappy headed, round shouldered, idiot." I said it. Now you can go and try all you want to, go down to the library and see if you can find anything. It's not down there. Is it Dr. Gross? You know too Dr. Gross, don't you boy? All right now, here's what I'm after. Here's what I want her to read.

READER: And Moses went up into the mount. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and a cloud covered the mountain. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and the glory of Yahweh abode upon Mt. Sinai. . . DR. KINLEY: And the glory of Yahweh abode upon the mountain READER: and the cloud covered it six days. . .

DR. KINLEY: And the cloud covered it six days! Now the cloud covered it six days! This is Mt. Sinai. Look folks! I'm talking about time, place, when, where, how! And since Moses along entered into the midst of that cloud by himself, wasn't no Babylonians, wasn't anybody else on earth that could write it but Moses. He's in there by himself. Ain't that what it said? Did it? He's in there by himself. Now look, now you got another figure of it here. Leviticus 16:2, (now hold your thought), 16:2, He said He would abide within the cloud between the wings of cherubims. Listen! And said "Listen, Moses you talk to your brother Aaron!" Said "You speak to him that he come not within that vail. Don't be running around in here! And when he comes in, come in by yourself and alone! " Just like Moses went in here in that cloud alone. Now how in the world is the Babylonians gonna write anything? How is the scientist gonna explain anything? And the cloud covered it six days - ain't that what you got? Now in the first chapter of Genesis shows what Moses saw in the beginning of his vision. And he just wrote it down, and put it in the first part of the Book of Genesis. Now you're saying that Moses didn't write it, and it's a Babylonian myth, and the Mosaic was written long after Moses. Now that's the difference between a vision and a revelation. Moses just wrote what he saw while the cloud covered the mountain six days. And listen folks, that creation was already there! Here's a mountain! The cloud covered the mountain, and Moses is seeing that vision in that mountain, and Yahweh's going back showing him the creation. And he's just writing down. Said "In the beginning.. " in the beginning of the vision. Somebody thought it was the beginning of creation. Say folks, you’re blessed! Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, they went up there, and Peter, James, and John's got to go up there. And here's the same... now here's what I'm telling you. The same identical thing has got to happen. Why? Because what He's doing is fulfilling. Roman Catholics and Protestants say that He's instituting. I say they're a liar. I say they don't know. And that's what's wrong with all of the Biblical critics now. They don't know what's happening. Now look a here, He goes out here in the Garden of Gethsemane. I mean they're reading right down there in the Bible.., "After supper being ended He rose up, gird Himself about with a towel, and begin to wash the disciples feet. And then He sang a song!" What'd He sang the song for? What is the song? They don't know nothing about it! They sang the song of Moses. When Moses... They don't know why He gird Himself about with a towel, they just reading. What He's doing is fulfilling this. Rose us from the supper, (here it is right here), He rise up from supper. Supper being ended, He rose up and gird Himself about with a towel and He washed the disciples feet before they could receive the Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost. And a covenant is of affect after His death. So what He did there, and washed the disciples feet, (told 'em you don't know what I'm doing). And they didn't know until the Holy Spirit was poured out there. And they still don't know, the folks don't. Now here's what I'm trying to get over to you: This Bible is as plain as the nose on your face! There simply is no excuse for your ignorance. But now are you all following me? Are you following me? And look, look, this is what I want you to do. I want you to follow me to the jot and the tittle, and to the letter. If I say something and you don't understand, I done told you I don't know how many times, ask me about it! That's what I'm here for! And I told you to begin with, "You're not smart enough to ask me no questions I can't answer! You're not that intelligent!" And I don't mean to be criticizing your intelligence. Now what I'm telling you is, it's the Holy Spirit in me that's revealed unto me the knowledge of the purpose of God, and how it comes down through the dispensations and ages. I know what I'm talking about, I don't have to guess about it! Cause I've been caught up there myself. Believe it or not! And if it wasn't for that there wouldn't be no school down here. And these boys, they went up there in that cloud, and that's what he's talking about, He's got to fulfill it. And they say He's talking about, uh, that He promised to come back doing their life time. They didn't know what He was doing. They didn't know what He was doing when He got baptized. He told John that lie. And what He's doing, cause they were baptized Him unto His death, and here it rained 40 days and 40 nights, and they in here 40... See, your mathematics and everything is got to work together. You see what I mean? Somebody's that's just stubborn and bull headed about it says, "Look here, you don't know our preacher." Yes I do! Yes I do. You the one that don't know him. Now look boy, you think it's hard but it's fair, you see, it's hard but it's fair. And I wanna let you know, I don't have nothing to boast of. I wouldn't know either, I can't, I ain't no smarter than nobody else, (pick up a book and read around in it), I ain't no smarter than nobody else. A lot of folks out there in the streets, done pass up and down in front of this hall out there, and so far as academic intelligence or qualifications, or formal education, they got me passed by a country block. But, but from where I get 'em, is that Divine one. I got all the answers. I can answer anybody. And you just ain't gonna get shaved up, to fix me up so I can't answer you. You just ain't gone do that. Just like we told you about them murders, and atrocities, and Abraham and all the rest of 'em. Now if they had been that, redeemed before He came, If they had been redeemed, why it wouldn't have been no sense in Him coming in dying, hanging out there on the cross. That'd just been a lot of plum foolishness just like they said. But now you see where he entered into that cloud alone and by himself? And you see here in Leviticus 16:2 there, where He dwells in cloud. And then they went in, and here's the cloud between the wings, and here's the cloud over here. You see, you can't miss! You can't miss. As I told you Wednesday night, this Bible is a mystery. There is a mystery of iniquity and there is a mystery of Yahweh. Let me go on and finish up what I'm talking about. He told John "Suffer it to be so now because it becometh us to fulfill all right..." And He did say fulfill. And now don't forget, institute, Roman Catholic Church says it, the Protestant Church says it. All right, now then here we got in the 5th chapter that they call it Beattitudes. They don't even know why He went up in the Mountain. See Yahweh spoke from the mountain, Mt. Sinai. He spoke from the mountain. Now if He's gone ever hope to get it fulfilled, He's gonna have to go up there in the mountain. And look, when these children of Israel come out, there were a multitude. Wouldn't you call over six hundred thousand a multitude? Would you call them a multitude that was following Moses and that cloud? And now when Yahshua the Messiah was baptized there's a cloud overshadowed Him just like this cloud overshadowed Him. And He went straight way in the wilderness and tarried there 40 days and 40 nights, just like, uh, in fulfillment of that. And the voice coming from the cloud said "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased." Is that, is that almost right? And He had to go into the wilderness and stay there 40 days and 40 nights. Then He comes on back, walks by the seashore. And He chooses, (Peter them out there fishing), and He chooses them. And when He got His disciples together... I'm, I'm cutting it up a long story now see. And then they feed the multitudes, (I know about the feast of Cana of Galilee), I ain't got time to go into it, but I'm trying to put the thing together so you can see the reality of it. Now that's what I'm trying to do! And I told you to begin with, Roman Catholicism and Protestantism is a lie! Just like them folks down there talking about being atheists. Christendoom is a failure! It's a farce! It's ignorant tradition and superstition, and erroneous interpretation of the Bible, to say nothing about the interpolations and mistranslations inscribed in it. Now I'm talking like an atheist. Well I'll have you to know there isn't but one atheist, and that's the Boss Himself! He's the only one that can qualify to be an atheist. What is an atheist? Suppose to be a believer, a nonbeliever in God. Well He's an atheist all by Himself cause He don't believe it's any other Gods but Him, and said so. And then in order to be an atheist you got to have all the answers. You got to have all the answers to qualify. God's got all of the answers, He's qualified. That's the reason why I say, "You can't ask me nothing, you ain't smart enough." I got all of the answers, qualified. All right, now read on.

READER: Think not that I am come to destroy the law . . . DR. KINLEY: Now He's telling a whole multitude... Read the first verse there Doc. READER: And seeing the multitudes. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now He done lied to John the Baptist, told him He come to fulfill. Christendom says He's instituting water baptism. And incidently while I'm on that score... Say look folks, it wasn't nobody but the Jew baptized here. Where'd you get the idea that water baptism's for the Gentiles - he's grafted in. All right read on.

READER: and seeing the multitudes. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now he sees the multitudes... And I showed you how the multitudes come here, and He's got to fulfill 'em. "And seeing the multitudes He went up into the mountain..." And when they, they went to the mountain, (going right back to the same time too, the same season and year), "Seeing the multitudes," what happened?

READER: and when He was set. . . DR. KINLEY: Now when He was set... He went up into the mountain and when He set down, then what happened? READER: and His disciples came unto Him. . . DR. KINLEY: The disciples came unto Him. All right read the 5th chapter and the 17th verse. READER: Think not that I am come. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now here's what He said! Now listen, look up here at me folks! See He done lied to John the Baptist, saying that He come to fulfill. And they saying "He didn't do no such thing He come to institute." Now that's just one man. Now here He comes up to a multitude, a whole gang of folks. And what'd he say to them Doc?

READER: think not. . . DR. KINLEY: Now this is what He told 'em "Don't think it" READER: that I am come to destroy

DR. KINLEY: Don't think that I come to destroy the law or the prophets... Now you follow me and it'll help you. All right read.

READER: I am not come to destroy. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: but to fulfill. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now He done lied to a multitude, cause they say He's instituting. They don't know that He's fulfilling all this back here, seeing the multitudes, and seeing the cloud overshadowing the mountain, and the baptizing and the cloud... They don't know what, they don't know what He's doing. Christendoom! All right, now that's what it says. Is that right?

READER: That's right

DR. KINLEY: You got that there? Now I have to skip now cause I don't wanna keep you here over time. I have to skip. Now there's... He's done lied to John, He's done lied to a multitude. Finish the verse Doc. "Think not that I have come to destroy the law or the prophets but I am come to fulfill..."

READER: verily I say unto you. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: till heaven. . . DR. KINLEY: Listen! Till heaven and earth pass away READER: one jot or one tittle. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: shall in no wise pass from the law. . . DR. KINLEY: It shall never, never pass from the law READER: until all be fulfilled. . .

DR. KINLEY: Until it's all fulfilled. Now here comes these idiots dragging the Lord supper, water baptism, and everything over here. They're denying that He fulfilled it and brought it to an end. And they're practicing the thing that was done back here under the dispensation of the law. And then get up and open a Bible and say "There is therefore (the 8th chapter of Romans) There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus." And how'd you get in Him? "For by one spirit are we all baptized into one body and one hope of your calling.... And there is no condemnation to them that walk not after the..." Just got through.., and here he is just got through saying...! Paul said, "Be not deceived, God is not mocked!" Wasn't nobody in heaven that was able to fulfill the law and the prophet but the Lamb! And then when He come on down you can't mock, cause He's the only one that had the power to take it away. Said,"Be not deceived, God is not mocked! (listen!) Whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap!!" If you sow to the law or you dib-dabble in the carnal ordinances, you sow to the flesh, "you shall of the flesh reap corruption! But if you sow to the spirit you shall of the spirit (in this dispensation), reap everlasting life." Now you can go on bull headed and strong headed all you want to, but it just will never happen. They don't know out there. You wonder why in the world it is you can't behave, and you can't act right, and you're not satisfied within yourself, and you're ashamed to tell somebody. Running around here grabbing crackers and grape juice and drinking it, and battin' your eyes and telling you're sanctified and all that kind of carrying on, eating and drinking damnation not discerning the Lord's body. It's a spiritual body, and you don't discern it. And you just lay up there... Now look at this lying hypocrite standing up here saying "Hocus-pocus," he's changing... look at that lying dog! He saying he's creating the body of the Messiah! Transubstantiation, see. And you sat there like a stoop, and here this... Oh, boy I tell you, it gets me, just gets me all warmed up. I mean I get heated up good. And here it is, you licking out your tongue and he laying a little wafer, I mean going to the laver laying a little wafer on it - sowing to the flesh. And the Roman Catholics they drink the grape juice in fact, they don't give it to you. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) You can eat the wafer but they gone get the juice, Welches grape juice. Oh I tell you folks, this great mystery of God and this mystery of iniquity is something else. Now what I'm saying is, He told John that He's fulfilling. He's telling the multitudes He's fulfilling. Luke 24:44, now I want you to see... Now here He goes, here He goes on to the cross, goes on to the cross. He dies up there, and then He's buried in Joseph's New Tomb hewn out in the rock. Now I don't wanna have to get on that and go back yonder in the Book and come up cause I'd... You all don't want me to blow this roof, off do you? [Laughter] About Joshua being buried there, you don't me to, you don't want me to... you don't want that do you?... and that tree out there? You don't want me going back there fooling with that, do you, not tonight?

STUDENT: Yeah! Yeah!

DR. KINLEY: Now the roof will have to blow. See, and that is in fulfillment. He went out into the Garden of Gethsemane... And then after you done sit up there and read the Bible! He gird Himself about with the towel, and He went on out and crossed over the Brook Kedron. You don't even... they ain't even thought nothing about the little water that runs down, ain't even thought a thing about the Red Sea. See He crossed over the Brook Kedron and entered into the Garden of Gethsemane! And they ain't even had an imagination about it being associated with the Garden of Eden. Then Adam's expulsated there with that angel. Ain't that right? And here out there in the garden as He told Eve and them, and Adam, said "In the sweat of thy face shall thy eat bread until you return unto the ground." Why? "Because out of it wast taken... from the ground he was taken and thus you shall return." And that is in fulfillment out there in the Garden of Gethsemane, those words that was spoken there in the Garden of Eden. And Moses was the only man that saw that too! He saw Yahweh when He took the man from the ground, and he saw him when he went back. I'm telling you he's looking at it up here in this vision. The only individual capable to write anything, cause he's the only one that Yahweh revealed it to. And then He bears John on the Isle of Patmos to be a witness to what Moses saw. Now John… Moses seen the earth surrounded by water. And he seen those six days through there, and seen Yahweh in that vision creating. Now if you gonna ever get it confirmed, then somebody has got to go some place where the earth is surrounded by water. John goes on out on the Isle of Patmos, and Island certainly is a body of land surrounded by water. And he said "I was in the spirit on the Lord's Day, and he heard a voice behind him as the voice of many waters." And that voice... said "He turned to see the voice that spake with him..." (now folks I don't wanna preach). "He turned to see the voice that spake with him. And he turned around and he saw Him. And he saw Him with a golden girdle down about the paps. And His eyes as flames of fire, and His feet as burnish brass." What'a ya looking at? Looking right at the Sanctuary and the tabernacle, or the Sanctorum or Sanctorum, with the golden girdle about His paps. And he heard that voice from heaven. And said there, as John talked about, said he looked up there and he saw Him, and he saw, he saw how He was dressed, and all of those different kind of things, and he heard that voice from heaven. And he looked and he seen seven stars in His right hand. What'a ya doing now? Confirming, just as Moses seen back there, and that's what I'm out there for. He had to turn around because Moses is looking this way through those seven days, and John is looking back the other way. And Moses is looking from Alpha to Omega. John is in the Omega looking back to Alpha writing down what he saw in that vision. Just like Moses wrote down what he saw in that vision. He told John, said "What you see and hear, said write it in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia. To the Church of Ephesus, say this! To the Church of Laodicea, say this! And to the Church of Philadelphia say that." I'm just trying to show you what's happening now, is that happened in fulfillment, and this is a confirmation of it. That's the reason why we're able to take this Bible, and just... see it's sealed with seven seals, and we're opening seals, and loosed the seals. And we see that coming on from out from there, there was nobody worthy in heaven running around to loose the book, or loose the seals and open the book. He was the only one! He said to John, "Suffer it to be so now because it behooves us to fulfill all righteousness." Now Adam went to the grave, I got to go to. If Adam was in the garden, I got to go to the Garden of Gethsemane. And now I've got to go to redeem or restore him on back. I've got to be fulfilling. I want you to see what going on. That's all He's doing is fulfilling. And the Protestants, and the Roman Catholics, not knowing what He's doing, they say He's instituting Lord supper; they say He's instituting foot washing; they say He's instituting Christian baptism. They're telling Him He don't know what He's talking about. He don't know what He's doing. I hope you see through what I'm talking about. Do anybody in here that don't understand what I'm talking about, hold up your hands. Now here he is... finish up Dr. Harris.

READER: and He said unto them. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now He said unto them. Now He's started in His ministry... Let, let me reach and get something here. His conception,

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His birth and all, place of birth... and we trace it step by step, step by step, we don't miss it no kinda way. And we do know what we're talking about, and it's revealed right in the scriptures. And I'm so happy and glad that the real genuine reality, I mean Yahshua the Messiah, I'm talking about Yahweh Elohim, I'm talking about He is in me, believe it or not. You don't have to believe it unless you want to, I'm satisfied with it. You can just go ahead and say "I don't believe that little black nappy headed fool." That don't, that ain't bothering me a bit. Yes indeed. "He's round there blowing and boasting, that's what I don't like about that man." Now listen, I'm the champion of the idiots, you don't get no dumber than me. I'm so dumb until if Yahweh hadn't revealed something to me, the way I was going I'd of been nuts. Because I was really trying to find God, and I was sincere about it, just absolutely disturbed about it. Yes indeed, I tell you, uh, read on doctor.

READER: and He said unto them. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: these are the words. . .

DR. KINLEY: Now in the 16th chapter of Matthew where you read at, I ain't gone worry with it now. The 16th chapter of Matthew, when after that transfiguration, He come on down from the mount. And before He went up there, He told the boys how He had to die. And old Pete said... That's the reason why Roman Catholic make me so hot I don't know what to do. I can just feel that little flame coming up inside of me, under my collar. I mean I really get warm too, just warmed up, I mean heated all up good. Now here is Peter... You see He said "I say that thou art Peter and upon this Rock..." He didn't say upon Peter or upon that rock. He didn't say that. He's the Rock upon which is the congregation or assembly. And Peter wasn't the only pebble in the beach put in that building. All right now, listen to what I'm saying. Now then, as we go on, as it come on down, He got to talking to him and said how He must be crucified and how He must be offered up, and Pete grabbed Him and said "Now look, ain't nothing like that gonna happen to you." And He said "Get thee behind me Satan." Why don't the Roman Catholic ever say something about that? Now what was that in Peter? Now if you go back there to the 3rd chapter of Genesis and you'll find the exact words. When that woman, when he asked that woman, the Devil asked the woman, said "What is this the Lord God said unto you?" Said, "Thou mayest freely eat of all the trees in the Garden, but the tree which is in the midst of the garden of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it and thou shalt not touch it." And the Devil he started in right there, and tried to make God out a lie. Then he said "Thou shalt not surely die." Now here's that same old Devil saying "You won't surely die." Same thing. And He told him, said "Get behind me Satan." Same old serpent that was back there in the garden in Peter. The Roman Catholics don't say nothing about that. All right read on, and then we'll finish up here. Read on

READER: these are the words that I spake unto you. . . DR. KINLEY: Now that's what He's talking about. READER: while I was yet with you. . .

DR. KINLEY: These are the words that I was saying... When Peter told, uh, when He told him He had to die, those were the words that he said, uh, that he spake, and Peter, he had to rebuke him for them. You find that in the 16th chapter of Matthew, we've read it before. And if you just can't be still, and you don't think it's in there, we'll read it now. All right, you, you gone take my word for it? All right, read on.

READER: that all things must be fulfilled. . .

DR. KINLEY: "That all things..." Now listen Doc, now, now you just hold everything. Now you just hold everything. "That all things must be fulfilled,” read.

READER: which were written in the law of Moses. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and in the prophets. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: and in the Psalms. . . DR. KINLEY: (Repeats) READER: concerning me. . .

DR. KINLEY: Concerning me. Now over there He told Peter He would give them, give him the keys. Is that what He said? Well now here's the keys. The keys, I said it is that which is written in the Law and in the Prophets. And Him fulfilling it which was written in the law, (that's one), and in the prophecies, (that's two). That's the keys, interpreted by the Holy Spirit, and He's fulfilling it. Now He's giving it - just Pete?

READER: All of 'em. DR. KINLEY: Well, well we'd better read it again. READER: then opened He their understanding. . . DR. KINLEY: then said opened He Pete's understanding. . . STUDENT BODY: No, no, their understanding. DR. KINLEY: Their understanding READER: that they might understand the Scriptures. DR. KINLEY: "That they..." They, who? READER: His disciples

DR. KINLEY: His disciples. Do you see? Now He said what I say unto one I say unto all. He didn't just only give Pete the keys. He first personated Pete, and the Devil's always grabbing something. That mystery of iniquity must come all the way through here. And that's why He said it to Pete, and the rest of this too,but when it comes to passing out the keys, He gave 'em to all of 'em. And what are the keys? Is the understanding of the law and the prophecy, and that He's fulfilling it. And now when you have the Holy Spirit, which really is the, which it really is the first key, because He was the Holy Spirit personified when He was walking around. And now here He is resurrected... Look fellow! What's the matter with you? Don't you see this man down here in this ministry lying to this man? [John the Baptist] And then He lied to a multitude! Went on to the cemetery, and got up out of the cemetery contending that He was fulfilling! And these lying bastards out there saying He's instituting! They don't know what He's doing. And He's giving them the keys, said all that's written in the law and in the prophecy... That's the reason why He said for you to go to the Law and to the Prophecy. And you're not gonna ever know... You can be as hard headed, and stiff necked, as a billy goat, say "I ain't, ahhh, listen, I ain't going down to that Institute!" And another one say, "I ain't going down there! There's other folks right! What about all the rest of these churches? I know they're right! Somebody somewhere is right except just them two or three little folks down there at that Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research..." Now listen, you gone find somebody down here ain't right, to say nothing about them out yonder. We don't have no claim to make like that, about that. Ain't that right?

DR. WILLIAMS: That's right Doc, it's right here.

DR. KINLEY: Yeah, right down here at 1040. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. If it's anybody down here that don't have the Holy Spirit, or turn it around the other way, if the Holy Spirit don't have them, you ain't right. Yes, sir. How, how did I do there? Did I do all right tonight? I have to know. I have to know from the creation. I have to know every jot and every tittle. I have to know, and there ain't gone be no speculation about it. And let me tell you something else. Now if I didn't know, then I can't explain it to you so you can understand. I have to really know in order to explain it to you so you can understand. You're not suppose to come along and ask me questions and I say, "Well I don't know about that." If I don't know about that I ain't got no business here, I mean not being up here not as the Dean. Ain't nobody gonna come walking in here and surprise me. You know with all burden down and over capacitated with divine wisdom, intelligence, and all like-a-that. I don't care where you come from. You could be an angel drop right down from heaven, or from the lowest hell, he, he, don't move me a bit. I'm not disturbed at all about nothing they say. It's a reality with me. My contention is that each one of you, (you may not realize it), but you are Elohim incarnated yourself. Your physical body, this thing you got hanging on you, this very thing. Matter is... define it now.

STUDENT BODY: Spirit materialized.

DR. KINLEY: What's that for? For the spirit to inhabit. Well that's what that is. Where did it come from? It come from spirit. Where is it going to? Back to Spirit. And I know every step of the way, every jump of the way. Now I don't mean to set here and tell you that I know of myself, as a man, I told you I don't. I don't. I'm telling you that when the real sure enough Holy Spirit is in there...And you can have the Holy Spirit too, and then not necessarily know all the things like this. You could have the Holy Spirit. But I wouldn't say that you was sent to teach anybody anything, something you don't know. Now they, they have the Holy Spirit. As the New Covenant said, Jeremiah 31:31, said "They shall all know me from the least to the greatest." But everybody that has the Holy Spirit wasn't sent to preach. Yes indeed, everybody wasn't sent to preach that's got the Holy Spirit. That's not the way that the Bible is written. There were twelve men that were sent, the Apostle Paul included. You didn't have but twelve tribes back here. Now we got a bunch of hypocrites, and skeptics, and atheists, and agnostics, infidels, backbiters, liars, and hypocrites out here, ain't nothing but babylon, to lie to us. That's right. I hope you've gotten something out of it. Give us a run down there Bud. Sing a song, real quick.


[TURNED OVER TO BUD WUNCH, THE MODERATOR]